Tobias Harris WILL SAVE The Detroit Pistons!

Tobias Harris WILL SAVE The Detroit Pistons!

we got to talk about the Detroit Pistons yeah they have finally spent some cap space on players that we believe will play unlike in previous years Monte Morris didn’t play Boon bonovich was hobble we were waiting for a while for Ali barks and when they did play there was always some type of injury that they had they went and traded for galinari and muscala those guys wind up getting injured as well after us seeing a good seven game stretch with them in the lineup and then they got injured again and it was just like what in the world what in the world so the Hope here is the Pistons signing Tobias haris two years $52 million contract fully guaranteed this was first reported by Adrien wowski of ESPN the Detroit Pistons they make a move to bring in a stretch four that can shoot from behind the arc we continue to say you got a space to floor for K Cunningham now you got Tim Hardway Jr you got Tobias Harris it’s not your A1 type free agents that you’re looking for but one of my takes with Tobias Harris is this and because there was a question I was going to ask you guys as well about Klay Thompson and the money that he got versus uh Tobias Harris cheaper deal for Klay Thompson I wonder if there’s a little bit of a discount for a team that just got to the finals for the mass versus the Pistons sure um similar shooting numbers similar stats you know with the Pistons have been better off kind of pursuing a Klay Thompson over Tobias but I like what Tobias brings stat-wise I like what he could bring as relates to the mix uh with this young core but he wanted to be here this is this is not a secret for the better part of a year or a year and a half we have reported that Tobias Harris wants to be here his wife is from here they appreciate it that not just kind of living here but how the fans have treated them not just while they were here but long after so definitely good on Detroit fans for being those types of people that you leave an impression on players that kind of work here left and decide you know what let me take another chance on Detroit again because of how these people treat me as well so that to me is really really reassuring I know Tobias Harris is not you guys know I’m looking for Zack LaVine Demar de rozan go out there and give me one of these top 25 top 20 top 30 players from last year but I am okay with the Tobias here signing in flanel I asked you a little bit yesterday you gave me your quick reaction I know you talked about on big the energy but before our wake up what we’re family brother yes I am happier with the Tobias signing than most personally one because you mentioned it before about players who signed free agency deals last year and the year before but got hurt Tobias Harris over his career has been a very durable player historically and I know he’s getting up there in age and as you get older you’re more susceptible to injury but he hasn’t shown a history of being hurt often I’m not saying he’s never been hurt I’m just saying he’s a very durable player historically and you just look at his career numbers I mean 16.6 rebounds for his whole career on 48 37 84 shooting splits that’s pretty good I mean I mean that’s a that’s a very good NBA career and those are very good those are better A lot better splits than a lot of Pistons players had last season he’s a vet he’s a 68 kind of like you know three4 who’s I would say an upgrade defensively over what Buon was he can shoot the three he can space the floor over his career 37% from three on four attempts per game and he wasn’t necessarily my first choice for free agency but you mentioned it he wanted to be there and when you think of guys like say Gary Trent or buddy heeld they’re better three-point Shooters than Tobias Harris but Tobias Harris for a couple of years of his career has been a borderline Allstar I mean last season he averaged 17 a game he’s the type of guy that I think on a perfectly constructed roster could be a third best on a championship team I’m not saying he’s going to be that on this team but you add Tobias Harris to this roster you already added Tim Hardaway Jr I hope to God that they get something worked out with fonio you’ve got Marcus Sasser and for now you’ve got Isaiah Stewart that’s CAD surrounded by five Shooters that’s Cade surrounded by five Shooters and some of them have shown a propensity to play well defensively including Isaiah Stewart including even Simone fonio I think he can guard fours Tobias not the best defender but he’s fine enough same with Tim Hardaway Jr I just when you get a guy like Tobias Harris and I’m going to kind of you know pair it with Tim Hardaway Jr I think a guy like Kade Cunningham because I am I am a Stan I’ll admit it I’m a Stan when it comes to Kade Cunningham I believe a guy like that a guy who put up Allstar numbers last year a guys a guy whose numbers across the board compared favorably to even guys like Paul Paulo banero and Mike Bridges guys like that he’s a guy that you can expedite things with if you get guys around him who fit like a Tobias Harris who I think fits like a Tim Hardway Jr who I think fits and with Tim Hardway Jr you Al got the added bonus of the assets I just I like the move and I think the Pistons and maybe I sound like a Slappy maybe I sound a little bit too cuz I’ve been hurt before but I think this is instant at minimum 25 wins maybe 30 and there’s still more that they can do I really believe that when you when you talk about last year’s over under set by Vegas being 28 and a half it’s like yeah I don’t want the expectation to be be slightly better than last year when you’re spending this amount of money the CBA you said that the business have to spend up to a certain uh salary floor so there’s more money to be spent and you said a name there Gary Trent who a lot of of um kind of Talking Heads media people and such are stating he might be able to be had for one of the exceptions and the Pistons have both of their exceptions it’d be interesting to see if they uh make a call on a player like that to continue to bolster things but and because the exception doesn’t take from the cap space which they’re trying to utilize to be able to bring in more draft and Future Capital asset so so that’ be interesting not to interrupt but so are you saying you could bring in a Gary Trent and also maybe make one of those trades for an expiring contract to get an asset or two you so we got 24 million cap space in the mid-level exception and the veterans exception and uh and vets minimum those don’t count uh as a part of that 24 million depending on who you depending on whose contract you might have to absorb along with Gary Trent I’m not going to say it but I’d be getting pretty excited as long as of course Cade stays healthy and and all and people stay healthy but as far as construction goes don’t hate it at all yeah yeah so I I’m neutral on the Tobias Harris move he wasn’t my first choice I don’t necessarily think he’s the the greatest fit of all time but I understand why he’s here I like the veteran presence he brings and he can shoot the ball um he is 37% from three-point line but what what I struggle with is the timing of it all it happens so fast like I wanted I wanted the Pistons to be like the town bike and let every team in town have a ride like I wanted just I want I want Tran langan’s phone being off the hook like I want I wanted the Pistons to be the dumpster fire for all these contracts and 26 mil a year 52 over two that takes a big chunk out of that what they have 55 65 to be begin with um so there’s still stuff you can do with the 24 mil they have available but I don’t know I just thought they for for how Tran Lan sort of hinted at how he was going to approach this I thought they could have been a better uh uh a better escrow account for some of these contracts gather some picks um I think they’re probably out of the Zack LaVine you know sweep Stakes if we want to call it that maybe not explain to me if they like 43 mil a year I think he makes how they make this all work uh obviously you’re going to have to have some outgoing contracts but if they haven’t rubber stamped everything yet the the it’s K Cunningham’s contract also doesn’t start until next season season after I think it’s the season after because got next year is the last year of his rookie deal but they just they just signed Patrick Williams a $90 million they signed Jaylen MC uh uh Jayden McDaniel to a contract also so like would it beefs Ste be your only outgoing contract that has any dollar value and they don’t need him no he wouldn’t be the only one of dollar value your young players it would probably take St and another young player but there are ways to kind of finagle trades and things like when we saw them bring in Jeremy Grant um they were able to free up some Capital make the sign and trade deal with the Dallas uh with the Denver Nuggets and make some happen I don’t believe they’re out of the Zack leavine thing because it’s continuously being reported that despite the moves that Bulls are making they’re still looking to get rid of Zack LaVine and they’re even trying to attach a first round pick to it uh if there’s a way to yeah if there’s a way to make something like that happen I I honestly I’m doing that deal I’m doing it instantly um with the Tobias haris stuff I understand if some people find it a little underwhelming because it’s not our first choice we’ve been in the trenches for 10 15 years waiting for this team to kind of turn things over and when you go through what we just went through with the restor you we’re we’re sitting around right now waiting for what should be our reward which is a team that’s ready to make the playoffs and instead we’re kind of starting things over so I get it with like Tobias Harrison toar Jr that some people are like you know what I don’t know what this is going to do for our team right now and making sure we punch our ticket to the playoffs but in terms of making sure you strike this balance because it was something you stated that I agree with but you have to find a balance it’s not just the draft Capital you bring in but how you also support the players you’ve already drafted and I do believe that you have to find that balance in between what draft Capital you bring in and the types of vets like a Tobias Harris that can actually help this young Squad take the necessary step forward whereas kaban bonovich he wasn’t necessarily that player um the thing that I like about Tim Hardaway and and Tobias Harris is not all three-point percentages are the same and Simone fek you can throw them in her too these guys can take a high volume of three-point shots and their percentages are the 37s and the 36% and the 35 and the 38s whereas other players like an ivy and some other players in our Squad they take three four threes and they’re at 34% as that volume goes up that percentage continues to go down and so you got some guys that you know Kade Cunningham can absolutely depend pined on when you’re talking about getting down Court getting in the half court absorbing that gravity and kicking it out to a three-point shooter who you know out of seven or eight threes that they take a game they’re going to hit at least three or four of these things that’s so much more different than what they had to rely on last year and I’m uh I’m excited for what this can do for the offense but they do need more of course they need more but I think they’ve I think they’ve done enough for this to at least look like a somewhat real basketball team next year I mean you got some you got some veteran Shooters you’re not going to be starting the year off with Killian Hayes and assar Thompson in your starting lineup which was just uh Mal Fein in the worst play but hey the man who was responsible for that Mal Fein is now gone so and so that that that’s that’s that doesn’t mean anything for right now but you were right you need with how bad it’s been to you need some veterans you need someone to just uh make it look like a real basketball team that is somewhat watchable you can’t have what was last year and as you as you said before a guy like Tim Hardaway Jr who not not only for the assets but for the 36% career three-point percentage on six attempts per game a high volume shooter who still shoots it efficiently a guy like Simone fono who was over who is a restricted free agent and we’re going to and we want to bring back but was over 40% on high volume in his time with a Pistons a guy like Tobias Harris who isn’t as high of volume only four attempts per game in his career but about 37 % that to me tells you that he’s got good shot selection and he’s smart with when he takes them and that’s another type of player that I think Kate will benefit from so I’m happy as of now but as you said before I want more if you can get Zack LaVine and and take on a first round pick or two gosh some of the things I’m thinking might be a little reckless I’ll just say that so I’m not going to put that out in the air now but I think if you get Zack LaVine plus assets Tim Hardaway Jr plus assets and T and Tobias Harrison for agency that’s a winning off season for me there are 14 win team last year I you can be as Reckless as you want I support you real you got to be as Reckless as you can be man [Music]

Join Matt Broder, Detroit Kool-Aid and Flannel Sam as they discuss the Detroit Pistons singing Tobias Harris. How much will this move help the Pistons?

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