What if Giddey becomes an MVP for the Bulls like Harden was for the Rockets?
July 15, 2024
What if Giddey becomes an MVP for the Bulls like Harden was for the Rockets?
21 comments
Good for him if it happens. His role was such that it could never happen here.
Not worried about that
Then good for the bulls
Probably not but I still think he’s one of the only traditional point guards left and has value in this league
Don’t disrespect my man James like that
No offense, OP, but I don’t think Josh can grow that kind of beard.
Harden was a much better player by the time he left OKC than Giddey is right now. I’m not worried about Giddey becoming an MVP
If 2k is accurate that’s what always happens when Josh gets away from the thunder. 🤣
I don’t think it would be viewed the same by fans and media. They could have paid Harden and his role on the team fit. No one knew he would develop into the player he is but they decided not to pay him.
Giddey is a good player but his role doesn’t mesh with this team. He’s young, has good size and elite court vision. His shot is just not there (yet…possibly). They aren’t in a situation to pay someone whose role clashes with the other people on the team.
So if he wins MVP, it means that the Bulls allowed him to play his style of play and his shot developed. Nothing that would have happened in OKC. So I hope he does honestly, but I don’t think the two would be viewed the same way.
I will be thrilled for him as his talents would fit a better roster construction, it would continue to show that Presti can see hidden value in the draft, and that the OKC Thunder FO are not beholden to the sunk costs fallacy.
Let’s remove the variables of skill health, his role on the team etc and it does happen. Honestly I’d be happy for him, any former thunder that succeeds after their time with OKC would make me happy for them. Except maybe for KD – yeah I still think his move to gsw is kinda weak.
Lmao
OK, jumbled take aside, this would mean that Josh would have to raise his scoring average to nearly 2.5X his norm off top. He’s at slightly 14. He gotta get to 35 in the same vein that most MVPs do, if not at least 30. OP, you know that shit ain’t happening.
He also gotta take a Bulls squad who is now trying to tank deep the East in the same vein of SGA. That ain’t happening.
What I’m typing is that James Harden was a scorer who got fucked on his contract. Josh Giddey is a facilitator who got fucked on defense and got benched in key moments in games. Worlds apart. If he though became a world beater than I’m clapping for him every night as he has never personally wronged me in any fashion
Not a good analogy because everyone knew Harden’s value.
Anyone who thinks Giddey (2021-2024) was skill wise in the same room as Harden (2009-2012) is 14 years old or stupid.
IF it does happen and IF OKC doesn’t win a championship in the next 10 years, unfortunately it will haunt us similarly to Harden.
It made total sense to move Giddey based on the offensive fit, defensive struggles, and accelerated development of Chet and Dub as our 2/3 options. BUT as time goes on people will wonder if OKC should’ve stuck with him, gave him more control, allowed time for his shot to develop, etc.
At the time it also made sense to move Harden! OKC was committed to paying KD, Russ, Serge. Harden would eventually demand more money, a larger role, and a starting spot which OKC did not want to give him. They were able to trade him for KMart who replaced his bench scoring, but because their title window closed so suddenly in 2016, people will always look back on the what ifs of the Harden trade.
That’s just delusional.
Spoilers alert 🚨he won’t.
Josh Freaking Giddey is never going to win the MVP. Cmon.
He’s good enough to be the primary ball handler for a team that doesn’t have someone else who really is contending for the MVP as a primary ball handler already on the team.
good for him
If Josh Giddey and Alex Caruso were going to play a televised game of 1-on-1 today, who would you bet on?
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Good for him if it happens. His role was such that it could never happen here.
Not worried about that
Then good for the bulls
Probably not but I still think he’s one of the only traditional point guards left and has value in this league
Don’t disrespect my man James like that
No offense, OP, but I don’t think Josh can grow that kind of beard.
Harden was a much better player by the time he left OKC than Giddey is right now. I’m not worried about Giddey becoming an MVP
If 2k is accurate that’s what always happens when Josh gets away from the thunder. 🤣
I don’t think it would be viewed the same by fans and media. They could have paid Harden and his role on the team fit. No one knew he would develop into the player he is but they decided not to pay him.
Giddey is a good player but his role doesn’t mesh with this team. He’s young, has good size and elite court vision. His shot is just not there (yet…possibly). They aren’t in a situation to pay someone whose role clashes with the other people on the team.
So if he wins MVP, it means that the Bulls allowed him to play his style of play and his shot developed. Nothing that would have happened in OKC. So I hope he does honestly, but I don’t think the two would be viewed the same way.
I will be thrilled for him as his talents would fit a better roster construction, it would continue to show that Presti can see hidden value in the draft, and that the OKC Thunder FO are not beholden to the sunk costs fallacy.
Let’s remove the variables of skill health, his role on the team etc and it does happen. Honestly I’d be happy for him, any former thunder that succeeds after their time with OKC would make me happy for them. Except maybe for KD – yeah I still think his move to gsw is kinda weak.
Lmao
OK, jumbled take aside, this would mean that Josh would have to raise his scoring average to nearly 2.5X his norm off top. He’s at slightly 14. He gotta get to 35 in the same vein that most MVPs do, if not at least 30. OP, you know that shit ain’t happening.
He also gotta take a Bulls squad who is now trying to tank deep the East in the same vein of SGA. That ain’t happening.
What I’m typing is that James Harden was a scorer who got fucked on his contract. Josh Giddey is a facilitator who got fucked on defense and got benched in key moments in games. Worlds apart. If he though became a world beater than I’m clapping for him every night as he has never personally wronged me in any fashion
Not a good analogy because everyone knew Harden’s value.
Anyone who thinks Giddey (2021-2024) was skill wise in the same room as Harden (2009-2012) is 14 years old or stupid.
IF it does happen and IF OKC doesn’t win a championship in the next 10 years, unfortunately it will haunt us similarly to Harden.
It made total sense to move Giddey based on the offensive fit, defensive struggles, and accelerated development of Chet and Dub as our 2/3 options. BUT as time goes on people will wonder if OKC should’ve stuck with him, gave him more control, allowed time for his shot to develop, etc.
At the time it also made sense to move Harden! OKC was committed to paying KD, Russ, Serge. Harden would eventually demand more money, a larger role, and a starting spot which OKC did not want to give him. They were able to trade him for KMart who replaced his bench scoring, but because their title window closed so suddenly in 2016, people will always look back on the what ifs of the Harden trade.
That’s just delusional.
Spoilers alert 🚨he won’t.
Josh Freaking Giddey is never going to win the MVP. Cmon.
He’s good enough to be the primary ball handler for a team that doesn’t have someone else who really is contending for the MVP as a primary ball handler already on the team.
good for him
If Josh Giddey and Alex Caruso were going to play a televised game of 1-on-1 today, who would you bet on?
Exactly.