Dr. Jeff S. Pierce on Kerry Carpenter, Detroit Tigers and More

Dr. Jeff S. Pierce on Kerry Carpenter, Detroit Tigers and More

all right keeping it pushing back here Big D energy Woodward Sports Network it is time for our injury Insider that is right Dr Jeff Pierce for the Michigan Sports and Spine Center he has brought a guest here today as well but Dr Pierce appreciate you joining us as you always do also like to welcome in Tera thei she’s a vice president of Business Development for metal more on them in just a second but Dr Pierce as always good to talk with you and before we talk to uh before we talk to terara call me down on this I told you I told you it was coming before you I saw you walk in the door Carri Carpenter fractured lumbar oh he’ll be out 3 weeks four weeks uh there’s been a setback uh we we’ll tell you about it later I don’t like what I’m hearing calm me down a little bit here you did the first time Cal me down again yeah like I said before I needed to know the details and because it’s going out further you know maybe the secret SAU so they haven’t given the secret sauce that we always refer to is that he’s having complications which means he’s still had that instability because it’s a spine he’s got all that rotational stuff I mean if he’s feeling a tweak it’s not worth this time of the the season to bring him back prematurely so he’s got to be coming back 100% zero pain 100% normally I’ll say zero pain 90% with this part of the season I think we’re you know we’re at All-Star break here we’re Midway he’s going to make a difference for the Run so I I think they’re be I want to be that they’re being overly cautious okay and making sure we don’t need to rush this there’s no reason to rush it it’s not like we’re fighting for playoffs they’re doing pretty well right now they actually got a good run going so there’s you know it’s kind of like uh what’s his face in Boston we’re we’re doing okay without you you know keep sitting down okay all right doc you but I would like to see him get some secret sauce I mean I I love I love the biologics for stuff like this you know some of it for the mainstream guys they they don’t see it they got to kind of go uh in the back room to get it sometimes okay all right I’ll defer to you on this you are the injury Insider so I’m calmed down a little a little bit more uh no but you did bring a guest here as we said uh Tera theel here is the vice president of Business Development for metal Lodge and and Doc look I was um I was on the golf course yesterday playing uh with a good buddy of mine Tony Paul from the Detroit news and I was uh yeah I was uh I was Len the fact that speaking of you know spine and twisting and all that kind of stuff I can’t quite do that like I used to and we got in a discussion about getting older and things like that and uh you know that whole process you know through medicine obviously has changed but there’s like there’s another side of that whole prospect that people talk about long-term care and and what happens you know as you kind of get towards the end of the road I’m I’m fascinated to have this discussion today tell us a little more about Teran while she’s here so ter here we’re working with you know Michigan Sports inspir has multiple things you know people knows me as doc rock or the injury Insider and stuff like that we have a whole another side of our company that I felt from a personal level needs to elevate right so in Subacute postacute Care nursing home whatever we’re calling it we’re leaving the hosp our loved ones leaving the hospital and they have to go to like a nursing home the theory of going to the nursing home and passing away and being done is long gone some people still that mental picture but the elevation of the Care from a rehab standpoint when you see the facilities they now say skill facilities with Rehabilitation meaning people are going there to rehab to go back home I make fun of my old players you know I’m old enough to like you know there may be one here right no no no see I’m I’m different because I’m special because I’m like Benjamin Button and I he’s getting younger it’s the story back to where we’re talking stem cells and whatever I put those puppies away 10 years ago with you so I’m only going to get better it’s for the rest of them that aren’t on the doc program but it’s great to hear because I was going to say I mean drapes is getting up there and you know uh he was scared to get that needle oh petrified he will not petrified we can talk about that later but but really the the real subject and the reason I want to ter because she is Vice President of Business Development so she’s seen the changes she’s elevating her career she oversees multiple States but the change is different like we’re moving in Ohio and Tennessee we work well together in Michigan but it’s that care that we have to guarantee the person you know when you leave the hospital you have choices now the insurance I won’t get on my soap box but they’re forcing the issue prematurely out of the hospital so that means you got to choose to go home go to impatient rehab or go to a Subacute postacute care majority of these people are getting pushed into postacute care prematurely so that’s forcing the the medal group or all the nursing homes to elevate their care to care for these people because they get penalized if they get dis or readmitted to the hospital because they’re prematurely discharged which is the case more than we want to see so they’ve come together and working with multiple Specialists not just rehab so to give us a little idea of you know they’re now the largest provider in the whole in the state of Michigan we are we are we have 51 locations throughout the state amongst you know some other management agreements where we’re supporting other providers that may not necessarily be called Medi Lodge per se so at this point about one out of out of every four skilled nursing facilities were supporting and um I partner with Dr Pierce and some others because like you mentioned the industry’s just changed drastically I’ve been doing this for about 15 years and it was a whole another you know way of doing things 15 years ago even seven eight years ago just pre-co and then Co kind of really brought a lot of challenges and a lot of you know I think myths as well about who we are and what we do and so Dr Pierce and I and other physician providers out there who know the importance of a good two to three week you know just aggressive therapy post a stroke post an injury post you know an illness what we can do to get folks back to Healthy Home level and the thing is when we work together like that we’re fighting the insurance company every second of the day yeah 15 years ago we would have a stay just to give you a clean example in the nursing home up to 40 to 60 to 90 days being paid now it’s down to 17 days we’re not that much better there’s not that much Secret Sauce so when we have someone that we work with on the same page like Mage is pro patient we’re all advocates for the patient what’s better for functional outcome we’re always talk like functional outcome you’ll hear a ton of and we fight with the nurse with the with the insurance company for the nursing home to provide that extra care so by having rehab and other like Cardiology wound care every you have to have every specialty that you have in the hospital so a lot of the nursing homes are fighting to to work as a mini hospital within that range and Med Lodge you know there are bigger pictures so they can they can do things like from a big corporate standpoint to bring in Specialists like me to help their whole corporate model so when you’re out there deciding for your loved one I mean medage is a is a great choice you need to go visit it you know I’m educating the the nursing homes on how to promote themselves a lot of them didn’t have websites they don’t you know they realized all they would get was negative feedback so their ratings would go down all that’s changed now just in the last three years you guys are much more aware of what the social media is saying yeah absolutely that’s why we’re here today well well speaking of speaking of that in the chat right now uh the the insurance companies are taking it Taking some shots right now in the chat there is no doubt about that but but my main question is because before you walked in this door I had no idea that this industry had gone in that direction where and Dr Pierce like look this is going to sound cold but this is to me it was still exactly what you said where you get into your your post care you go into the the home you go into the home and you just wait for nature to run its course I think you and majority of anyone else I’m I’m just being honest you know what I’m saying I I’m I’m stun what what brought this about what brought what brought this change in perspective in that whole industry about because I am fascinated and again you know my parents are getting older and stuff like that like it’s on the horizon I’m just again I’m just being real with it so what what brought that whole change in philosophy I think that for us you know Med LOD at least and our our philosophy on it is we we put our resident you know or our patient at the center of every decision we make and I think that that’s it’s important we we have to have folks like myself who I’m an advocate I’m an advocate for my residents I’m an advocate for for patients that just need that postacute care that’s what it all comes back absolutely or who may need long-term care with us that’s great too that we do do that but I think we have to advocate for all that we do and make sure that you know our society sees the positive and not just the negative because generally that’s what they see and what holds true if we’re not out there advocating yeah and and they’re under struggles too right there’s Cuts everywhere you keep hearing about Medicare Cuts or you know Medicare is not paying or what are we going to do we’re going to run out of money they’re they’re amount what they have to do now with the amount of people like especially Co like nursing homes are getting a lot of bad press right now cuz oh look at the ratios of people well nobody wants to work anymore they’re they don’t want those ratios but Med has a reputation that people like to work for them so their ratios are a little bit better but some of these nursing homes like I defend the nursing home you know you get to State walking and well you didn’t have enough people well we can’t hire enough people because someone gave away all this money for these people to stay home so people don’t want to work and and do this type of thing so it’s a double-edged sword that we need to find a common ground and by working together and communicating having a common goal like I say we’re all in the same canoe going up going Upstream but we’re all together pushing we’re getting a much better result and who who’s most important I mean like everything I’ve done like when I teach my residents or my fellows or my medical students I’m like you do good medicine you’re everything’s going to happen right you do what’s right for the patient everything’s going to work out at the end of the day you hear all these horror stories that get into the Press but you don’t hear the the heroes of really the the woman that you know falls out of bat or had a stroke you know the people that are involved in I mean you have a severe stroke and you get 14 days from an insurance company who’s the cold one here I mean I I can’t get no I know hey you’re you’re playing to the crowd though no you’re absolutely playing to the crowd but to your point um medy Lodge was employer of the year um through voted through Michigan Works this year as well so we we make sure that we’re putting everything back into the care of the resident at the bedside with our staff you know any equipment they need we have ventilator care units for for those types of patients coming off of severe respiratory illnesses and that sort of thing so and working with cardiologists pulmonologists you know Dr Pierce and his team we have a lot more resources working together um we need a lot more resources we need more but I think it really goes back to philosophy it’s being pushed out of that hospital quickly I mean when I was in the hospital you know before you were some of you were born but you know had everything you were there for days you know we did um oh my God I forgot the old the red wi um I took care of him he had his stroke and basically we had him there for 30 40 days now we get called at day seven the progress are they making I mean it’s like the paperwork and the defense you have to do is taking away from patient care I mean I want to do a show like just about about that like how the system’s broken the suggestions we need to fix it but right now I mean they have a very good system so they’re a larger company that can bring in better technology better counties of what’s going on to give these insurance companies to push back and now teaming up with our our system we push back because we speak the same language and we speak it better than them than that 20 you know that person that’s working hourly you didn’t fill out all the boxes therefore they have to be leaving you know and the burdens on the family you know I don’t like culturally there’s certain cultures that want to bring in the family but that disrupts you know your kids going into sports and oh we got to take care there’s just so it’s I’ll peel back and shut all right Dr Pierce here as always our injury Insider every Tuesday uh brought along a special guest it is Tara the she’s the vice president of Medal Lage our vice president of Business Development for medal l so so Tera I guess before we ride out here uh where where can people where can people find out more I guess is the question because I’ll tell you this again I did not know before walked in this door today it is something I think that I would have to do due diligence on if I’m ever in that situation for sure 100% we’re we’re going to find out more info that means I’m doing my job creating awareness and and bringing the positive to what we do and how we can help you and your loved ones and um so medil lodge.com is the best way it’s got all of our locations we have a Blog about who we are what we do the different services and that sort of thing so we have social media Pages Facebook Instagram um like you mentioned everybody’s got to be out there um so med.com would be the best way all right well I I appreciate you anything else want anything else you need yeah no I think this is a good discussion I appreciate it no no absolutely uh I just I I can tell with you like it’s it’s organic like again you you talked about Advocate people that are sick need Advocates and it’s it’s unfortunate that that’s what it is right now but that is what it is right now it is and I think you know I grew up taking care of my grandparents and and my parents and all of that and just need more folks like myself and Dr Pierce and others in between to continue to Advocate and and show what we’re able to do so so when Darren is ready he’ll have well a clean shot into the right place well yeah I mean do put him through a table again uh you know I put a guy through a table last night I didn’t go through the table so I’m when’s the last time you went through a table D it’s been a while as far as you know see that’s education I told him these are the things we got to cut out there you go see he listens but it’s it goes down to don’t tell me what tell me and you have to go and and it’s the unfortunately like anything else there are bad in this world but they’re also good and and the thing is teaming up together like doc said the compassionate ones so do your due diligence and unfortunately if you’re in a situation or family members that aren’t in the optimal situation then let reach out um to metalog or or or you got to do your due diligence because we Neil you brought up this spectacular point we joke a lot about you know us in our age and the wings Stu that but our parents I mean that’s where we’re at it right now is like my mom’s 75 and and you know these are the questions so uh whether it’s uh something hap if something happens where do you go for the Post care or what’s the next transition because it’s not the end right it’s not the death sense it’s not the end it’s actually just to to enhance and I just think the way that Med medication is and it’s got to have start for the compassion so now just talking about it then being about it but if you’re out there go do your due diligence that’s right and there’s people like me out there who have lived and breathed this their whole life it’s all I know I can come and talk sports and not I’ll listen and listen it probably won’t be great but you know this is my passion what I do and what I know and there’s lots of people like me out there that will help you and your loved ones through the process with support and help you out so well it shows it shows when you talk and uh appreciate you appreciate you guys stopping by thanks Dr Pierce for setting it up all right all right we’ll talk again we’ll talk more about your Tigers later yeah yeah yeah we we we certainly we certainly will attention sports fans don’t miss out on Expert Sports Injury Insight with Dr Jeff Pierce of Michigan Sports and Spine join Dr Pierce every Tuesday during Big D energy and Thursdays during armanian Edwards where he offers topnotch injury advice trust the guy that I trust Dr Jeff Pierce is here to keep you in the game and performing at your best for more information visit michigansports ands spine.com or call 28426 9944

Director of the Michigan Sports and Spine Center, longtime Detroit Sports medicine expert and Woodward Sports own Injury Insider Dr. Jeff S. Pierce along with Tara Thiel joins Neal Ruhl and Darren McCarty to discuss the Kerry Carpenter, the Detroit Tigers amongst other topics. Like, Subscribe and leave your comment below!

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