Hi there! It looks like you’ve posted an image. If this image is from an article, please provide a source. If it’s a meme, please ignore this comment. Thanks!
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Habs) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Yes this years lineup is basically unchanged appart from Hutson
Buffalo 14, Ottawa 12. Yikes
Are we so bad that it’s near impossible we win the division? Yeah
Are we that much worse than BUF or OTT? Not by a long shot.
yes
Tage Thompson played injured for most of the last season
and ottawa acquired an elite goalie
As of right now, we acquired a 13th forward who might end up playing in laval
Another 2-3 years before we’re real contenders
Of course we are
Floride in the drinking water levels of various cities?
Young and unproven teams like MTL are always gonna be bad in the betting markets. The markets aren’t going to give you the benefit of the doubt with prospects that they are going to improve. They’re going to factor in proven commodities + off season additions of other proven commodities. MTL has VERY little in the way of proven commodities and made absolutely zero off season additions.
We’re gonna finish 5th ahead of Detroit, Buffalo and Ottawa
Yes. Any sane fan would say the same.
Detroit, Buffalo and Ottawa have all the pieces to battle for the third place/wildcard. Will they? That’s a real good question, but to think we are better than any of them is coolaid-level.
Yep.
2 years ago we were a tank team. Last year we didn’t add anyone but did get rid of some contracts. This off-season we lost yolonen, kova and didn’t bring in a replacement for Monahan. So on paper we should be worse than 2 years ago. Some of our prospects developed – that’s good but limited. We have prospects that could make the jump but that remains to be seen and the same could be said of other teams.
We are also probably in the toughest division. We struggled heavily against our division last season.
Still not convinced this is accurate? Ignore Det, Ott, But, do we have any chance of overtaking Florida or Toronto for best team in the division? Do we have any of the firepower Toronto has? Do we have goalie of Bobrovsky’s stature? Not even close.
We didn’t get any better, lots of uncertainty, I don’t expect them to be better than 11-12
I’m just wondering how MSL will deal with the “Shift clock” issue. Every game. “Oh look! Gally and Anderson have been on the ice for almost 2 full minutes! Great!” 😑
I don’t see Hutson/Mailloux or whoever else helping much in that regard. D-zone play was atrocious, and that’s gonna have to be addressed before any hope of playoffs.
No but other teams are better
Our only improvement comes from our young guys progressing and getting better, while some of our players with issues get back to health or find their game again. We didn’t add any players in the off-season.
I think we’ll improve and maybe beat some of these teams. But those numbers you see are just odds based off what people are guessing and betting on. It’s not a good measuring stick of the team’s quality.
These are odds to be first in the division. Not “odds to have a better record” or “odds to make the playoffs”
For the Habs of last year to match the point total of the Panthers, they’d need to convert 17 straight losses into wins. They won 30 games last year. If it weren’t for our large number of OT losses it would be more.
The team probably has improved since last year. But they haven’t improved to “over 50% more wins than last year, and less non-OT losses than every single team in 2023.”
Yes
It’s a rebuild and where at what year 3.
Our record last year was directly impacted by that ridiculous 3 goalie system. Give Monty and Primeau the the chance and their play will elevate our record.
Ah yes my favorite team – floride
Oui
People need to realise the difference between what these odds are predicting, I e. The likelihood of **winning the division**, and just a ranking of the ability of each side. It’s a measure of the potential ceiling next season, not overall ability
I don’t think this team is nearly that bad. (if it can have a reasonably healthy season)
– Starting the season with a true 1st line is something that wasn’t possible in recent seasons.
– Having a productive, high chemistry line in Armia – Newhook – Gallagher as a 3rd line should prove to improve the results.
– Having Dach for a full season allows Montreal a chance to have a dominant 2nd line, Roy looks primed for a break out season. Anderson is the question mark, can he rebound or not. Either way he’s just warming Demidov’s spot inevitably.
Caufield – Suzuki – Slafkovsky
Anderson*Demidov – Dach – Roy
Armia – Newhook – Gallagher
Pezzetta – Dvorak – Evans
RHP, ABB
– The entire 4th line is UFA after this season, so they could potentially be replaced with prospects as soon as this season, or after the trade deadline.
Our roster is largely the same. At this point, if we’re going to improve in the standings we’re banking on improvement from basically the entire roster. We should have some improvement if we stay healthy and our young guys continue to progress/vets bounce back. A reliable second line/healthy Dach would make us much more dangerous offensively.
Our best bet is to hope for improvement from the young guys, solid goalie play, and better goal prevention. I think the goal is to take a big step forward next year with Demi and potentially a big fish elsewhere via FA or trade.
I can’t see us finishing ahead of anyone aside from maybe Ottawa, although that’s unlikely if Ullmark fixes their goalie issues. Within a couple years though, I think we will overtake them, Buffalo and Detroit at the minimum.
We will be considered bad until we prove we aren’t. Also if you believe we aren’t than those are good odds 😉
27 comments
Hi there! It looks like you’ve posted an image. If this image is from an article, please provide a source. If it’s a meme, please ignore this comment. Thanks!
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Habs) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Yes this years lineup is basically unchanged appart from Hutson
Buffalo 14, Ottawa 12. Yikes
Are we so bad that it’s near impossible we win the division? Yeah
Are we that much worse than BUF or OTT? Not by a long shot.
yes
Tage Thompson played injured for most of the last season
and ottawa acquired an elite goalie
As of right now, we acquired a 13th forward who might end up playing in laval
Another 2-3 years before we’re real contenders
Of course we are
Floride in the drinking water levels of various cities?
Young and unproven teams like MTL are always gonna be bad in the betting markets. The markets aren’t going to give you the benefit of the doubt with prospects that they are going to improve. They’re going to factor in proven commodities + off season additions of other proven commodities. MTL has VERY little in the way of proven commodities and made absolutely zero off season additions.
We’re gonna finish 5th ahead of Detroit, Buffalo and Ottawa
Yes. Any sane fan would say the same.
Detroit, Buffalo and Ottawa have all the pieces to battle for the third place/wildcard. Will they? That’s a real good question, but to think we are better than any of them is coolaid-level.
Yep.
2 years ago we were a tank team. Last year we didn’t add anyone but did get rid of some contracts. This off-season we lost yolonen, kova and didn’t bring in a replacement for Monahan. So on paper we should be worse than 2 years ago. Some of our prospects developed – that’s good but limited. We have prospects that could make the jump but that remains to be seen and the same could be said of other teams.
We are also probably in the toughest division. We struggled heavily against our division last season.
Still not convinced this is accurate? Ignore Det, Ott, But, do we have any chance of overtaking Florida or Toronto for best team in the division? Do we have any of the firepower Toronto has? Do we have goalie of Bobrovsky’s stature? Not even close.
We didn’t get any better, lots of uncertainty, I don’t expect them to be better than 11-12
I’m just wondering how MSL will deal with the “Shift clock” issue. Every game. “Oh look! Gally and Anderson have been on the ice for almost 2 full minutes! Great!” 😑
I don’t see Hutson/Mailloux or whoever else helping much in that regard. D-zone play was atrocious, and that’s gonna have to be addressed before any hope of playoffs.
No but other teams are better
Our only improvement comes from our young guys progressing and getting better, while some of our players with issues get back to health or find their game again. We didn’t add any players in the off-season.
I think we’ll improve and maybe beat some of these teams. But those numbers you see are just odds based off what people are guessing and betting on. It’s not a good measuring stick of the team’s quality.
These are odds to be first in the division. Not “odds to have a better record” or “odds to make the playoffs”
For the Habs of last year to match the point total of the Panthers, they’d need to convert 17 straight losses into wins. They won 30 games last year. If it weren’t for our large number of OT losses it would be more.
The team probably has improved since last year. But they haven’t improved to “over 50% more wins than last year, and less non-OT losses than every single team in 2023.”
Yes
It’s a rebuild and where at what year 3.
Our record last year was directly impacted by that ridiculous 3 goalie system. Give Monty and Primeau the the chance and their play will elevate our record.
Ah yes my favorite team – floride
Oui
People need to realise the difference between what these odds are predicting, I e. The likelihood of **winning the division**, and just a ranking of the ability of each side. It’s a measure of the potential ceiling next season, not overall ability
I don’t think this team is nearly that bad. (if it can have a reasonably healthy season)
– Starting the season with a true 1st line is something that wasn’t possible in recent seasons.
– Having a productive, high chemistry line in Armia – Newhook – Gallagher as a 3rd line should prove to improve the results.
– Having Dach for a full season allows Montreal a chance to have a dominant 2nd line, Roy looks primed for a break out season. Anderson is the question mark, can he rebound or not. Either way he’s just warming Demidov’s spot inevitably.
Caufield – Suzuki – Slafkovsky
Anderson*Demidov – Dach – Roy
Armia – Newhook – Gallagher
Pezzetta – Dvorak – Evans
RHP, ABB
– The entire 4th line is UFA after this season, so they could potentially be replaced with prospects as soon as this season, or after the trade deadline.
Our roster is largely the same. At this point, if we’re going to improve in the standings we’re banking on improvement from basically the entire roster. We should have some improvement if we stay healthy and our young guys continue to progress/vets bounce back. A reliable second line/healthy Dach would make us much more dangerous offensively.
Our best bet is to hope for improvement from the young guys, solid goalie play, and better goal prevention. I think the goal is to take a big step forward next year with Demi and potentially a big fish elsewhere via FA or trade.
I can’t see us finishing ahead of anyone aside from maybe Ottawa, although that’s unlikely if Ullmark fixes their goalie issues. Within a couple years though, I think we will overtake them, Buffalo and Detroit at the minimum.
We will be considered bad until we prove we aren’t. Also if you believe we aren’t than those are good odds 😉