Theo Ash pointing out some horrible play designs

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1. Theo Ash doesn’t have to do this. We fucking know. I have PTSD every time I see a screen play

2. Just throw the playbook in the trash and use chatgpt to generate a new one quickly.

   Wouldn’t surprise me if Doug scrapped the entire gameplan once Engram got hurt before the game. So they tried something completely different and Browns just outcoached them giving them different looks etc.

3. Are these coaches even trying? I never coached or played football in my life just enjoy watching it and I can point out all the flaws with these plays. How can they look at these plays after the game and think they should ever run them again? Or that they are even designed correctly. I can’t imagine how these look drawn up they must only work against some terrible defense. They give the defense everything they could ever want. Defenders don’t have to think just guard your zone and they will come right to you. Line backers can cheat up as much as they want the intermediate game is a waste land. Put a tight end on a dt or de he doesn’t even have to work for a mismatch. Guys running across the formation to make a horizontal block. What are we doing? These coaches have to go the sooner the better.

4. It’s not all on Trevor

5. I really think they stay away from the middle because they don’t trust Trevor in the middle. Balls sailing over the heads of receivers behind them ect. But if I rember correctly isn’t that what we got Davis for ?
   So fucking use him.

   The only way Trevor is gonna get consistent with throws in the middle is to start doing it.
   So fucking do it till he gets it right.
   Playing the way we’re playing now is leading to losses so avoiding it isn’t working.

6. If we were a big market team, Doug would’ve been under so much more media pressure

7. Dude it’s only week 2 and all
   You guys acting like you know something they don’t. This social media really got people
   Ballsy to say they haven’t done XYZ but still want to give their opinion? What are we talking
   About here my fellow jaguars? We can win the next 5 and you all are gonna turn face and DR the staff. Let’s give them. Few to adjust. Geesh

8. This makes the offense look terrrrrrible which they are. Not makin me hopeful for this year lol

9. These are atrocious calls for any QB. Let alone the Oline…sheesh.

10. So WR routes and blocking schemes are totally cooked. If only there had been some indication in the collapse last year that those issues might be worth working on.

11. This was a great breakdown. It really supports the idea that it’s not just the players not executing. The players aren’t being put in positions to succeed and when they do, it’s in spite of the coaching, not because of it. It’s hard to see how talented this roster is when the coaching is minimizing their strengths instead of maximizing them. This goes beyond play calling, too. These are issues in the playbook itself and there’s no one to blame there but the coaches.

12. does doug want to get fired? it just makes absolutely no sense. this scheme looks like a complete polar opposite of 2022, why in the hell will they not just go back to that at least in some capacity??

13. Holy shit between the offset I trap run and the fake boot left set right, those are two of the worst plays I’ve ever seen lol.

    That offset I literally stands no chance unless JOK literally isn’t paying any attention at all, and even then it’s still dead. You can’t design the play to make the WLB crash AND expect your LT to beat him to the spot. That’s crazy

    And that deep boot reset is insane to have Gabe on a deep stop/curl. Crossing Gabe there makes the safety chose a route to run with and guarantees you a 1on1 somewhere. Also gives Trev an option on the side he rolled to

14. I have been wondering how long his leash is in game to get us out of a bad play. I’m thinking press and Doug aren’t letting him do too much off script. The good vet qbs have that go ahead to see a play not working immediately and get the O into something better. You’ll see guys like Rodgers switching protections and plays almost every snap. Hopefully as trevs game continues to grow he will become more of that on field OC. It seems like he’s kinda in this limbo rn of here’s the play and maybe 1 alternate call (kill kill kill) and just pray they work, instead of getting in a call early(idk if that’s possible for us) and giving him time to do his job, dissect the D and make the adjustments to get us into the right call, maybe get a little crazy and throw some more presnap motions to help. It seems we never utilized hot routes either. I can’t tell how many times we’ve got a WR with a db 10+ yrds off and fuckin acres of open green in the middle of the field and we’ll run a route right into the dbs lap instead of something like a hot 5yd slant for an easy 10+. Why it is so hard for us to attack space and take the easy yards instead of asking Trevor to pull somethin out his ass on a lame duck is beyond me.

15. Can some hire Theo Ash in the front office

16. Shades of Jedd Fisch. Why do we always have to have OCs who are out to show everyone how smart they are with their tricky play calls? “No one ever calls this play in this situation, so they won’t expect it!” Yeah, there’s probably a reason no one ever calls that play in that situation. Common plays are common *because they work*.

    There’s not much difference between “let’s avoid the expected plays and call lots of unexpected plays to stay unpredictable” and “let’s avoid good plays and call lots of bad plays to stay unpredictable”. Of course the defense won’t expect you to call physically impossible blocking schemes or stupid route combinations. Why would they?

17. Seeing our run game from the madden angle is actually shocking.

    This is YEAR 3 of the same system, with an offensive-minded head coach. What do they actually do in film sessions?

18. Tony on Breakfast with Boselli and during Jags Happy Hour that Cam missed the backer, not the design, “you have to run where they will be, not where they are”. But the routes and route combinations look GOOFY

19. Brian Thomas Jr was my favorite receiver in college and it’s criminal what your OC is doing with him. He has insane speed and would do amazing in any sort of mesh or dagger routes and not just out route and go routes. I’m sorry cat bros Press Taylor sucks

20. My only complaint with the breakdown is the third play. We knew trevor was going to be throwing from under center this year. It functions as a play action with the play reading run prior to the snap to help with quick routes like sticks. You can see two rushers get caught in that and scrambling back into position. Trevor was telegraphing the pass before he even snapped the ball which is why it was almost picked off regardless of the bat at the line.

    The rollout was trying to get cute and function like trevor was going to run. Nobody bought it. Nobody should have bought it. Maybe it was to slow down the edge and give some leverage to the line, but what good is that if you aren’t running nay viable routes, like he stated.

    Everything else makes sense though. They are bad plays.

21. I knew it was bad. But this breakdown makes it look much worse.