Rashan Gary just had his 3rd Zero-Pressure game in 4 weeks. Before this, he was on a 54-game streak of recording at least 1 pressure. What is going on.
October 7, 2024
Rashan Gary just had his 3rd Zero-Pressure game in 4 weeks. Before this, he was on a 54-game streak of recording at least 1 pressure. What is going on.
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The final play of the game (imo) could realistically be considered a pressure, no?
He seemingly hasn’t developed any new moves and looks like an average athlete from a 3 point stance for some reason
Think this is the same situation as Kampman when we switched for 4-3 to 3-4?
I’m not expecting this defensive unit to completely turn things around in less than half a season (even though the difference is almost night and day now) because they had to unlearn Barry’s bullshit and learn a new scheme in a single offseason. Having said that the pass rush is definitely not living up to expectations. They just look like they mindlessly run into blockers.
The pass rush issues are really weird. I swear from camp reports the pass rush from Gary and others was looking really good. Now in season they look really bad, and it isn’t as though our O line is bad at pass blocking.
I’ve seen various reports that Gary is shifted more inside (rushing from closer to the Tackles rather than wider alignment), and has his hand in the dirt and both things seem to be limiting his go to moves effectiveness and he doesn’t have other moves/plans to make it work.
He’s got bagitis. He upgraded from a sack to a bag and can’t go back.
He just straight up sucks this season.
Nick Perry 2.0?
I bought his jersey, that’s what happened to Gary. I swear, I should buy a Vikings and a Lions jersey just to see if my ‘luck’ still holds true.
Honestly, it is disappointing he can’t win his matchups. He is getting double teamed/held but not more than other teams #1 Pass Rusher. He is only bull rushing and can’t seem to beat the blockers around the edge like he used to. IDK if it is a Gary thing or s scheme thing, but I think he would benefit from more DL stunts and Twists to help him/ other DL out. The other thing I am noticing is he can’t get OL hands off him which pretty much makes is potential win rate 0%. I would see if standing him up on obvious passing downs helps him be more proficient at hand fighting in the trenches helps him see/get off the ball faster.
Is it possible he was just the one player who actually benefitted from Joe Barry? Or that he was simply better in a 3-4?
I know the easy excuse is “he got paid” but I gotta believe it’s more than that
Idk but the defense did only give up 13 pts in a W, so let’s not freak out yet.
I mean unless you’ve got the all22 it could be that the attention he is getting is opening up things for others. It’s not like the defense sucks
His peers [voted him](https://youtu.be/X-1vBuL4Hx8?si=FepQ3xpMyBmtnv2f) as the 50th best player in the NFL last season. So the difference in play has been stark. Unfortunately, it didn’t feel like he ended last season all that well either.
PFF has the rams game as his second best, (first being the Tenn game).
Gary can’t even do the one thing people could point to and say that he was elite and worth paying him as much as he was given. Like, what is his strength that separates him from “just above average”? He doesn’t draw a high amount of double teams, he isn’t getting to the QB, he isn’t good in the run game. It seems his only thing is “crazy athleticism” which means nothing if you can’t produce
It just may be that Gary kind of sucks. It is almost like you shouldnt use high pick draft guys that werent vey succesful in college, just based on “potential”. You really shouldn’t give them a huge contract after just half a season of decent play, again based on “potential”.
He’s just a guy
For the people suggesting he’s getting double and triple teamed, do this experiment next week. On defense, just watch him. You’ll be shocked at how easily he’s being handled. Like he often doesn’t even get close.
One thing I think we are starting to really realize is that Devonte Wyatt is really important to our DL. It seems like he has really taken a step forward this season and since he has been injured, the DL has seriously regressed
If you look at the stats (don’t) our defense is middling at best and terrible at worst. The only reason people are acting like it’s not a complete dumpster fire is our number of interceptions.
He had clear a pressure on the last play while being held so this wrong that he didn’t have one.
We are definitely picking some DL in the draft this year, might even be the double up spot
That being said if it gets to absolute worst case scenario, Rashan Gary is not hard to move off of. It might hurt a bit in 2025, but after that it is quite clean
I know some are bringing up the scheme as a potential issue for the guys up front but Enagbare has put together a really solid season. Wyatt was feasting before his injury. Did gary cut weight in the offseason or does anyone have that answer? He just doesn’t seem as powerful right now
He looks slow off the ball. It looks more reaction based too. Should in theory be an easy fix, I’d take some offsides at this point to get him going
Rashan Gary signed a 4 year , $96,000,000 contract with the Green Bay Packers, including $34,646,928 signing bonus, $34,646,928 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $24,000,000. In 2024, Gary will earn a base salary of $1,125,000, a restructure bonus of $6,375,000 and a workout bonus of $700,000, while carrying a cap hit of $11,146,138 and a dead cap value of $34,084,552.
He’s struggling in the 4-3
I would like to once again point out that the Packers could have once drafted TJ Watt….. but instead they traded down and drafted Kevin King …… Lol…… 😂 😂
Yet we mock people openly suggesting Green Bay make a trade for EDGE.
What if it’s just one of those things where he doesn’t fully recover from the acl, not like he was dominant last szn
If we stay on pace that would be 48-37 sacks wise. To this point its 26-9 on INTs and we are on pace to hit that mark as well. Gary has been terrible (I know thats the point of the post) but the defense has been lights out at times. If Gary (or next man up) start to deliver consistently this defense will be dominant. Also this defense is very fun to watch!
Iconically, the pressure’s on for Gary.
I blame Luke VanNess for not being able to win 1 on 1s so they’re just double teaming Gary. (No idea if that’s the case for Gary but man Luke I just the LT pushing you aside all the time)
Edit: spelling
They are making him play more disciplined because he was constantly giving up the edge last year with his bull rush and now he is being exposed because he doesn’t have any other move.
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The final play of the game (imo) could realistically be considered a pressure, no?
He seemingly hasn’t developed any new moves and looks like an average athlete from a 3 point stance for some reason
Think this is the same situation as Kampman when we switched for 4-3 to 3-4?
I’m not expecting this defensive unit to completely turn things around in less than half a season (even though the difference is almost night and day now) because they had to unlearn Barry’s bullshit and learn a new scheme in a single offseason. Having said that the pass rush is definitely not living up to expectations. They just look like they mindlessly run into blockers.
The pass rush issues are really weird. I swear from camp reports the pass rush from Gary and others was looking really good. Now in season they look really bad, and it isn’t as though our O line is bad at pass blocking.
I’ve seen various reports that Gary is shifted more inside (rushing from closer to the Tackles rather than wider alignment), and has his hand in the dirt and both things seem to be limiting his go to moves effectiveness and he doesn’t have other moves/plans to make it work.
He’s got bagitis. He upgraded from a sack to a bag and can’t go back.
He just straight up sucks this season.
Nick Perry 2.0?
I bought his jersey, that’s what happened to Gary. I swear, I should buy a Vikings and a Lions jersey just to see if my ‘luck’ still holds true.
Honestly, it is disappointing he can’t win his matchups. He is getting double teamed/held but not more than other teams #1 Pass Rusher. He is only bull rushing and can’t seem to beat the blockers around the edge like he used to. IDK if it is a Gary thing or s scheme thing, but I think he would benefit from more DL stunts and Twists to help him/ other DL out. The other thing I am noticing is he can’t get OL hands off him which pretty much makes is potential win rate 0%. I would see if standing him up on obvious passing downs helps him be more proficient at hand fighting in the trenches helps him see/get off the ball faster.
Is it possible he was just the one player who actually benefitted from Joe Barry? Or that he was simply better in a 3-4?
I know the easy excuse is “he got paid” but I gotta believe it’s more than that
Idk but the defense did only give up 13 pts in a W, so let’s not freak out yet.
I mean unless you’ve got the all22 it could be that the attention he is getting is opening up things for others. It’s not like the defense sucks
I pointed out his lack of production two weeks ago and got absolutely dogpiled by this sub [https://www.reddit.com/r/GreenBayPackers/comments/1fr0aix/rashan_gary_has_a_total_of_15_sacks_over_his_last/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/GreenBayPackers/comments/1fr0aix/rashan_gary_has_a_total_of_15_sacks_over_his_last/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
His peers [voted him](https://youtu.be/X-1vBuL4Hx8?si=FepQ3xpMyBmtnv2f) as the 50th best player in the NFL last season. So the difference in play has been stark. Unfortunately, it didn’t feel like he ended last season all that well either.
Remember this: [https://www.reddit.com/r/GreenBayPackers/comments/1f9av91/peter_schrager_predicts_rashan_gary_to_be/](https://www.reddit.com/r/GreenBayPackers/comments/1f9av91/peter_schrager_predicts_rashan_gary_to_be/)
PFF has the rams game as his second best, (first being the Tenn game).
Gary can’t even do the one thing people could point to and say that he was elite and worth paying him as much as he was given. Like, what is his strength that separates him from “just above average”? He doesn’t draw a high amount of double teams, he isn’t getting to the QB, he isn’t good in the run game. It seems his only thing is “crazy athleticism” which means nothing if you can’t produce
It just may be that Gary kind of sucks. It is almost like you shouldnt use high pick draft guys that werent vey succesful in college, just based on “potential”. You really shouldn’t give them a huge contract after just half a season of decent play, again based on “potential”.
He’s just a guy
For the people suggesting he’s getting double and triple teamed, do this experiment next week. On defense, just watch him. You’ll be shocked at how easily he’s being handled. Like he often doesn’t even get close.
One thing I think we are starting to really realize is that Devonte Wyatt is really important to our DL. It seems like he has really taken a step forward this season and since he has been injured, the DL has seriously regressed
If you look at the stats (don’t) our defense is middling at best and terrible at worst. The only reason people are acting like it’s not a complete dumpster fire is our number of interceptions.
He had clear a pressure on the last play while being held so this wrong that he didn’t have one.
We are definitely picking some DL in the draft this year, might even be the double up spot
That being said if it gets to absolute worst case scenario, Rashan Gary is not hard to move off of. It might hurt a bit in 2025, but after that it is quite clean
I know some are bringing up the scheme as a potential issue for the guys up front but Enagbare has put together a really solid season. Wyatt was feasting before his injury. Did gary cut weight in the offseason or does anyone have that answer? He just doesn’t seem as powerful right now
He looks slow off the ball. It looks more reaction based too. Should in theory be an easy fix, I’d take some offsides at this point to get him going
Rashan Gary signed a 4 year , $96,000,000 contract with the Green Bay Packers, including $34,646,928 signing bonus, $34,646,928 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $24,000,000. In 2024, Gary will earn a base salary of $1,125,000, a restructure bonus of $6,375,000 and a workout bonus of $700,000, while carrying a cap hit of $11,146,138 and a dead cap value of $34,084,552.
He’s struggling in the 4-3
I would like to once again point out that the Packers could have once drafted TJ Watt….. but instead they traded down and drafted Kevin King …… Lol…… 😂 😂
Yet we mock people openly suggesting Green Bay make a trade for EDGE.
What if it’s just one of those things where he doesn’t fully recover from the acl, not like he was dominant last szn
Just wanna add something positive here:
[1996 defensive stats](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/gnb/1996.htm#defense::16)
[2024 defensive stats (through 5 games)](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/gnb/2024.htm#defense::16)
If we stay on pace that would be 48-37 sacks wise. To this point its 26-9 on INTs and we are on pace to hit that mark as well. Gary has been terrible (I know thats the point of the post) but the defense has been lights out at times. If Gary (or next man up) start to deliver consistently this defense will be dominant. Also this defense is very fun to watch!
Iconically, the pressure’s on for Gary.
I blame Luke VanNess for not being able to win 1 on 1s so they’re just double teaming Gary. (No idea if that’s the case for Gary but man Luke I just the LT pushing you aside all the time)
Edit: spelling
They are making him play more disciplined because he was constantly giving up the edge last year with his bull rush and now he is being exposed because he doesn’t have any other move.