[Clark] I asked Kurt Warner what steps he would take if he was the czar in charge of developing young quarterbacks for the leauge. “I would start with teaching them how to play the position.” A five minute masterclass on why so many young QBs are failed.
October 9, 2024
[Clark] I asked Kurt Warner what steps he would take if he was the czar in charge of developing young quarterbacks for the leauge. “I would start with teaching them how to play the position.” A five minute masterclass on why so many young QBs are failed.
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Does this clip sound like anyone were familiar with??
Step 1 – learn to bag groceries.
Young QBs fail because it may take time to develop and the finances are against going more than 3 or 4 years with a guy before moving on.
Functionally, his point is more guys are coming in being taught to memorize the play sequence, and he’s advocating for being able to run plays where you can succeed regardless of the concept because you understand what’s going on. If I can stretch for an analogy, guys are being taught to be crane operators (a highly skilled trade but very confined) where Warner is from a world where guys were taught to be Mechanics (also highly skilled, but different and more focused on diagnosis.
The problem is, at the game speed necessary, there’s very few people that can manage to do the Mechanic role. That’s why the systems became far more designed to put far more on the Offense Design than the QB. Guys that make it to their 2nd contract generally start to really learn the position, but they’re 5+ years into being deep in the weeds.
This is an outstanding explanation of the NFL QB problem. And he’s so spot on with the Andy Dalton, Joe Flacco examples. Those dudes know how to play the QB position. The ones they replaced are just athletes.
His first step in developing quarterbacks would be developing quarterbacks?
I would think someone would pay him a King’s ransom to teach some QBs…he may not want to deal with the inevitable dog shit that’s bound to come down.
Tomlin- “best I can do is catchphrases”
Hes right. They fail because they rely on running and athleticism in college against other children. Then they get to the NFL and the defenses are full of men coached by men. If you can’t throw from under center, you will never win a Superbowl. Ask Lamar Jackson and his 2 and 4 playoff record. Good teams that make playoffs know you want to run, scheme against it, and you look awful trying to pass from the pocket.
Interesting take
I can’t remember exactly where I read this but it was a testimonial from a journeyman player in NFL which was basically — it’s a coaches league if you don’t do exactly what they tell you you will find yourself out of a job. Doesn’t matter if it’s wrong or if you see something different. Do what they tell you
He’s spot on and the guy we currently have is the perfect example. He was always the biggest, strongest, fastest, with the best arm, so teams did what they could to get him on the field.
Now that he has to consistently beat NFL defenses with his arm, anticipate who will be open, and be able to get the ball out before it’s clear they are, he can’t do it. And I think it’s more than likely too late to learn.
QB’s aren’t developed anymore. They’re drafted, thrown to the wolves and then ditched when they don’t immediately succeed.
Jayden Daniels, CJ Stroud are the outliers, not the norm.
This is absolutely why guys like Baker Mayfiled and Sam Darnold went to the offensive meccas of Sean Mcvay and Kyle Shanahan and suddenly massively improved. Same with Geno Smith and it’s why Dave Canales got hired by the panthers. Teaching QBs how to read defenses does in fact make them better
So why isn’t this happening? Is it because people disagree with him about what good QBing looks like? Is it because this is what the NCAA produces and the NFL is too impatient to fix it?
Wow, he has it all figured out. No college or NFL coach has ever thought about trying to teach a QB to read a defense. Once this new concept catches on, games are going to regularly have scores of 52-49
15 comments
Does this clip sound like anyone were familiar with??
Step 1 – learn to bag groceries.
Young QBs fail because it may take time to develop and the finances are against going more than 3 or 4 years with a guy before moving on.
Functionally, his point is more guys are coming in being taught to memorize the play sequence, and he’s advocating for being able to run plays where you can succeed regardless of the concept because you understand what’s going on. If I can stretch for an analogy, guys are being taught to be crane operators (a highly skilled trade but very confined) where Warner is from a world where guys were taught to be Mechanics (also highly skilled, but different and more focused on diagnosis.
The problem is, at the game speed necessary, there’s very few people that can manage to do the Mechanic role. That’s why the systems became far more designed to put far more on the Offense Design than the QB. Guys that make it to their 2nd contract generally start to really learn the position, but they’re 5+ years into being deep in the weeds.
This is an outstanding explanation of the NFL QB problem. And he’s so spot on with the Andy Dalton, Joe Flacco examples. Those dudes know how to play the QB position. The ones they replaced are just athletes.
His first step in developing quarterbacks would be developing quarterbacks?
I would think someone would pay him a King’s ransom to teach some QBs…he may not want to deal with the inevitable dog shit that’s bound to come down.
Tomlin- “best I can do is catchphrases”
Hes right. They fail because they rely on running and athleticism in college against other children. Then they get to the NFL and the defenses are full of men coached by men. If you can’t throw from under center, you will never win a Superbowl. Ask Lamar Jackson and his 2 and 4 playoff record. Good teams that make playoffs know you want to run, scheme against it, and you look awful trying to pass from the pocket.
Interesting take
I can’t remember exactly where I read this but it was a testimonial from a journeyman player in NFL which was basically — it’s a coaches league if you don’t do exactly what they tell you you will find yourself out of a job. Doesn’t matter if it’s wrong or if you see something different. Do what they tell you
He’s spot on and the guy we currently have is the perfect example. He was always the biggest, strongest, fastest, with the best arm, so teams did what they could to get him on the field.
Now that he has to consistently beat NFL defenses with his arm, anticipate who will be open, and be able to get the ball out before it’s clear they are, he can’t do it. And I think it’s more than likely too late to learn.
QB’s aren’t developed anymore. They’re drafted, thrown to the wolves and then ditched when they don’t immediately succeed.
Jayden Daniels, CJ Stroud are the outliers, not the norm.
This is absolutely why guys like Baker Mayfiled and Sam Darnold went to the offensive meccas of Sean Mcvay and Kyle Shanahan and suddenly massively improved. Same with Geno Smith and it’s why Dave Canales got hired by the panthers. Teaching QBs how to read defenses does in fact make them better
So why isn’t this happening? Is it because people disagree with him about what good QBing looks like? Is it because this is what the NCAA produces and the NFL is too impatient to fix it?
Wow, he has it all figured out. No college or NFL coach has ever thought about trying to teach a QB to read a defense.
Once this new concept catches on, games are going to regularly have scores of 52-49