As a reminder, he's making $7mm this year. Jesse Bates is making $16mm.
A good life lesson: cheaper doesn't mean better value.
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That’s atrocious.
Comically bad.
Between Nick Scott last year and Geno this year it’s comical how badly the front office has handled the safeties.
Yeah but goddamn do our DBs hit hard once a game after a 20 yard completion. I think I’ve almost seen the ball move once.
Probably the reason Ravens were like Nah dawg we’ll find a replacement
He was probably just a beneficiary of being part of a great Ravens defense last year and sharing the defensive backfield with Hamilton. Going from that supporting group to this one is a massive downgrade and he’s probably in way over his head.
Part of it has to be a scheme issue.. I know he had tackling issues before he even came here but I remember Lou sending him on blitz more times than he should be. We brought him in to be a ball hawking safety, but there is to many times where there are WIDE OPEN receivers/TEs. There has to be a problem with the scheme.
So unfortunate because he played well last year for the most part
It’s what happens when you pay a guy $7 million for a single play where he fooled burrow
On paper, choosing not to re-sign Bates at the price tag he would’ve commanded when we had looming extensions at QB and WR probably made sense. But I think they vastly underestimated the massive negative impact of replacing him with bargain bin guys they tried to sign as moneyball replacements in FA. Lou’s defense requires strong DBs and going from Bates to guys like Scott and Stone is such a tremendous downgrade that it might’ve single-handedly torpedoed the team’s SB chances this year and last.
Not sure what the solution is after this season. You either need to get Lou a real Bates replacement or fire Lou altogether.
Really unfortunate. This move was considered a huge win.
Rankins, Brown and Stone our big free agents are doing great!
What happened to battle
I feel like the biggest jackass hyping this dude up after the training camp dates I attended this year lol
Does he know this?
He seems to be always out of position and late to the party, the bengals secondary is in a sad state.
Patrick Queen is doing terribly on the Steelers too. It’s 100 a scheme issue.
Still a Raven at heart. 😂
Is this one of those situations the requirements for the position are to demanding due to the scheme. For example it would be more than stupid to ask Deshaun Watson to run a Peyton Manning offense. Obviously Jessie Bates is a special talent (you’re welcome Atlanta) so could handle the task but 2 free agents who had some level of success with other teams fall flat on their face.
It’s even worse than that. If Stone makes it to week 10 on the roster, it will grant the Ravens a fifth round compensatory pick and subtract a 5th round pick from the Bengals.
Also even worse from a price standpoint when you consider him and Nick Scott and the fact they’re gonna have to pay an enitrely different one next year, yea not good business
Hubbard, Ossai and Murphy ( prove me wrong Murph) having 0 pass rush ability really makes these safeties look bad. The opposing QB’s have all day to wait for someone to come open.
Remember when the Bengals let withworth and zeitler, drafted 2 tackles the year before and then spend like a decade trying to fix that OL, same thing happened with the Safety position, they let go Bates, (drafted a safety one year earlier), I wonder how many years will it take to fix that position, because Stone is shit
LOL. I knew this wasnt the great signing the NFL said it was. As usual guy had the best year of his career and it lined up with his free agency. Hes a JAG. (just another guy)
He was balling last year with ravens soo..
Warned ya. Geno was a back up on the ravens and was a rotational safety. He never was able to earn a starting job. Yeah, last he had a lot of ints but. .watch the tape. Most were throw away balls of completely wild deep shots.
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That’s atrocious.
Comically bad.
Between Nick Scott last year and Geno this year it’s comical how badly the front office has handled the safeties.
Yeah but goddamn do our DBs hit hard once a game after a 20 yard completion. I think I’ve almost seen the ball move once.
Probably the reason Ravens were like Nah dawg we’ll find a replacement
He was probably just a beneficiary of being part of a great Ravens defense last year and sharing the defensive backfield with Hamilton. Going from that supporting group to this one is a massive downgrade and he’s probably in way over his head.
Part of it has to be a scheme issue.. I know he had tackling issues before he even came here but I remember Lou sending him on blitz more times than he should be. We brought him in to be a ball hawking safety, but there is to many times where there are WIDE OPEN receivers/TEs. There has to be a problem with the scheme.
So unfortunate because he played well last year for the most part
It’s what happens when you pay a guy $7 million for a single play where he fooled burrow
On paper, choosing not to re-sign Bates at the price tag he would’ve commanded when we had looming extensions at QB and WR probably made sense. But I think they vastly underestimated the massive negative impact of replacing him with bargain bin guys they tried to sign as moneyball replacements in FA. Lou’s defense requires strong DBs and going from Bates to guys like Scott and Stone is such a tremendous downgrade that it might’ve single-handedly torpedoed the team’s SB chances this year and last.
Not sure what the solution is after this season. You either need to get Lou a real Bates replacement or fire Lou altogether.
Really unfortunate. This move was considered a huge win.
https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/allbengals-insiders-plus/espn-pff-give-geno-stone-signing-a-grade-steal-of-the-free-agent-class-so-far
Rankins, Brown and Stone our big free agents are doing great!
What happened to battle
I feel like the biggest jackass hyping this dude up after the training camp dates I attended this year lol
Does he know this?
He seems to be always out of position and late to the party, the bengals secondary is in a sad state.
Patrick Queen is doing terribly on the Steelers too. It’s 100 a scheme issue.
Still a Raven at heart. 😂
Is this one of those situations the requirements for the position are to demanding due to the scheme. For example it would be more than stupid to ask Deshaun Watson to run a Peyton Manning offense. Obviously Jessie Bates is a special talent (you’re welcome Atlanta) so could handle the task but 2 free agents who had some level of success with other teams fall flat on their face.
It’s even worse than that. If Stone makes it to week 10 on the roster, it will grant the Ravens a fifth round compensatory pick and subtract a 5th round pick from the Bengals.
Also even worse from a price standpoint when you consider him and Nick Scott and the fact they’re gonna have to pay an enitrely different one next year, yea not good business
Hubbard, Ossai and Murphy ( prove me wrong Murph) having 0 pass rush ability really makes these safeties look bad. The opposing QB’s have all day to wait for someone to come open.
Remember when the Bengals let withworth and zeitler, drafted 2 tackles the year before and then spend like a decade trying to fix that OL, same thing happened with the Safety position, they let go Bates, (drafted a safety one year earlier), I wonder how many years will it take to fix that position, because Stone is shit
LOL. I knew this wasnt the great signing the NFL said it was. As usual guy had the best year of his career and it lined up with his free agency. Hes a JAG. (just another guy)
He was balling last year with ravens soo..
Warned ya. Geno was a back up on the ravens and was a rotational safety. He never was able to earn a starting job. Yeah, last he had a lot of ints but. .watch the tape. Most were throw away balls of completely wild deep shots.