Oh c’mon that’s about as bad faith as it gets. Grigson only had success thanks to Luck, and ultimately ruined the franchise. Wanna give Grig credit for Luck taking a shitty team to 11 wins by himself.
I know this sub wants to see Ballard dead and buried, but we gotta call a spade for a spade y’all
Edit: my grammar is as accurate as Grigson was signing free agents
Give me Ballard over grigson every single time. Andrew luck carried that team so hard
How the fuck you got zero division wins, lmao.
When Polian was fired, his son Chris was the GM. And it’s likely Bill was let go because they were actually firing his son. Bill had a bigger role.
I’m a Ballard fan, I think he makes smart, educated decisions on players and he’s focused on building a team, but not building a Super Bowl team, but building a solid foundation for a team that’ll outlive us all 🤣
Men Lie, Women Lie but Numbers DON’T
Andrew Luck and Peyton Manning
Anymore stupid questions?
Grigson was carried by Luck
My breaking point has been watching the Texans & Commanders of all teams turn their teams around in a SINGLE YEAR. While we’re in year 5 of finding ‘the right guys’ tells me everything I need to know. Get Ballard on a Mayflower truck immediately.
Because Jim is a 🤡. Ballard must know some dirt, probably about the overdose.
It’s a trash franchise. Changing the GM won’t matter until we get rid of the owner.
BURN THE BINDER!!!!
Because Chris Ballard is a winner!!
I mean CB should be fired, but he’s a better GM than Grigson ffs
Grigson had Andrew Luck and ruined him. Ballard failed at getting QB, but getting Andrew Luck is literally all luck lmao
Winning the division, the dream of everyone who doesn’t understand it’s completely irrelevant.
Not to mention that I could be GM of a team and win the division with Andrew Luck lmao
Quarterback search still ongoing, unfortunately.
No one talks about a little quip that came out when Irsay decided to have a complete regime change.
When Jim took over from Robert, he looked for help running things, and he made a trade for Bill Polian. If you ever spoke to people within the organization while Bill was there, you would find out that Bill ruled with an iron fist and kept Jim out of things. Bill knew how things should look and run. In my opinion, his biggest wart was his fear of injuries. He was why players had to be “rested” at the end of seasons.
At the turn of regimes, Jim made a statement that he would never have a GM that he didn’t have full control over again. I don’t like what Ballard has done. I feel like his leash while navigating to moving on after Luck was far too long.
Unfortunately, I really don’t feel like things will crop back out of mediocrity until we have an owner who doesn’t meddle. Most professional teams that have owners that meddle in everything, don’t do well.
All of the little leadership issues that we are hearing get leaked out start from the top down. I hope his daughters have a better understanding of finding the right people and getting out of the way.
Don’t get me started on who could’ve been part of ownership just under a decade ago!!
Bill polian had let the game pass him by and was forcing his son into the gm role plus between tarrik and castonzo he refused to address the hole at left tackle shortening peytons career IMO. plus He leaked all info to espn in his later years treating local guys like trash and we later find out it was to secure a job at espn.
Grigson built an offensive line that ended with luck retiring due to getting beat around and luck had very little help around him due in a large part to poor drafting … add in the example on how grigson treated players using pat mcaffees account of how grigson told him he could fine him a game check for a picture in an equipment room basically stating that he could do whatever he wanted to him including roughly a 100k fine at the time.
Not trying to say anything about Ballard here either way… but just to address the tweet that is solely looking at records lifted by a top tier qb. I will say there were quite a few similarities between grigson and the polians exit… basically if you have an elite qb and you fail to protect him, are generally a nasty person to those around you be it players or media and you don’t draft well for a long stretch you will probably get fired.
Didn’t you hear? It’s all a part of the process!!!
You have to really try to *not* win an AFC South division title in 8 years. And Ballard has proved he can do it. lol
But truthfully, the Colts organization make a big profit every year even with bad records, every team in the NFL makes a boatload of money for that matter. It may be a slight blow to the owner’s ego to suck but the money flows in anyway.
We can’t compare GMs by win count.
The NFL is a closed system. It isn’t free competition.
No teams start at the same point.
No teams have the same opportunities.
Each team by its very nature has different moving parts.
We can only evaluate the quality of decisions made in the context of when they were made. No two situations are the same.
Comparing by wins is always going to make GMs with epic QBs look brilliant.
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He’s got a 20 year plan.
Oh c’mon that’s about as bad faith as it gets. Grigson only had success thanks to Luck, and ultimately ruined the franchise. Wanna give Grig credit for Luck taking a shitty team to 11 wins by himself.
I know this sub wants to see Ballard dead and buried, but we gotta call a spade for a spade y’all
Edit: my grammar is as accurate as Grigson was signing free agents
Give me Ballard over grigson every single time. Andrew luck carried that team so hard
How the fuck you got zero division wins, lmao.
When Polian was fired, his son Chris was the GM. And it’s likely Bill was let go because they were actually firing his son. Bill had a bigger role.
I’m a Ballard fan, I think he makes smart, educated decisions on players and he’s focused on building a team, but not building a Super Bowl team, but building a solid foundation for a team that’ll outlive us all 🤣
Men Lie, Women Lie but Numbers DON’T
Andrew Luck and Peyton Manning
Anymore stupid questions?
Grigson was carried by Luck
My breaking point has been watching the Texans & Commanders of all teams turn their teams around in a SINGLE YEAR. While we’re in year 5 of finding ‘the right guys’ tells me everything I need to know. Get Ballard on a Mayflower truck immediately.
Because Jim is a 🤡. Ballard must know some dirt, probably about the overdose.
It’s a trash franchise. Changing the GM won’t matter until we get rid of the owner.
BURN THE BINDER!!!!
Because Chris Ballard is a winner!!
I mean CB should be fired, but he’s a better GM than Grigson ffs
Grigson had Andrew Luck and ruined him. Ballard failed at getting QB, but getting Andrew Luck is literally all luck lmao
Winning the division, the dream of everyone who doesn’t understand it’s completely irrelevant.
Not to mention that I could be GM of a team and win the division with Andrew Luck lmao
Quarterback search still ongoing, unfortunately.
No one talks about a little quip that came out when Irsay decided to have a complete regime change.
When Jim took over from Robert, he looked for help running things, and he made a trade for Bill Polian. If you ever spoke to people within the organization while Bill was there, you would find out that Bill ruled with an iron fist and kept Jim out of things. Bill knew how things should look and run. In my opinion, his biggest wart was his fear of injuries. He was why players had to be “rested” at the end of seasons.
At the turn of regimes, Jim made a statement that he would never have a GM that he didn’t have full control over again. I don’t like what Ballard has done. I feel like his leash while navigating to moving on after Luck was far too long.
Unfortunately, I really don’t feel like things will crop back out of mediocrity until we have an owner who doesn’t meddle. Most professional teams that have owners that meddle in everything, don’t do well.
All of the little leadership issues that we are hearing get leaked out start from the top down. I hope his daughters have a better understanding of finding the right people and getting out of the way.
Don’t get me started on who could’ve been part of ownership just under a decade ago!!
Bill polian had let the game pass him by and was forcing his son into the gm role plus between tarrik and castonzo he refused to address the hole at left tackle shortening peytons career IMO. plus He leaked all info to espn in his later years treating local guys like trash and we later find out it was to secure a job at espn.
Grigson built an offensive line that ended with luck retiring due to getting beat around and luck had very little help around him due in a large part to poor drafting … add in the example on how grigson treated players using pat mcaffees account of how grigson told him he could fine him a game check for a picture in an equipment room basically stating that he could do whatever he wanted to him including roughly a 100k fine at the time.
Not trying to say anything about Ballard here either way… but just to address the tweet that is solely looking at records lifted by a top tier qb. I will say there were quite a few similarities between grigson and the polians exit… basically if you have an elite qb and you fail to protect him, are generally a nasty person to those around you be it players or media and you don’t draft well for a long stretch you will probably get fired.
Didn’t you hear? It’s all a part of the process!!!
You have to really try to *not* win an AFC South division title in 8 years. And Ballard has proved he can do it. lol
But truthfully, the Colts organization make a big profit every year even with bad records, every team in the NFL makes a boatload of money for that matter. It may be a slight blow to the owner’s ego to suck but the money flows in anyway.
We can’t compare GMs by win count.
The NFL is a closed system. It isn’t free competition.
No teams start at the same point.
No teams have the same opportunities.
Each team by its very nature has different moving parts.
We can only evaluate the quality of decisions made in the context of when they were made. No two situations are the same.
Comparing by wins is always going to make GMs with epic QBs look brilliant.
Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck?