12 Years-Ago: Jays and Marlins agree to “blockbuster” trade. Become Vegas preseason favourites to win the World Series.
November 13, 2024
12 Years-Ago: Jays and Marlins agree to “blockbuster” trade. Become Vegas preseason favourites to win the World Series.
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This was an incredible day, as a Jays fan. Too bad Reyes immediately got hurt, and Josh Johnson became permanently possessed by a pumpkin. That was, as someone who was too young to remember 92/93, my first day of true ecstatic excitement as a Jays fan.
Imagine we waited a few more years before dealing all that prospect capital.
i remember after the trade they played a ton of 1992/3 playoff games. the hype was real, and then JP couldn’t catch a knuckleball in the home opener and the season was cursed
On paper, this was an amazing trade.
It’s a shame it didnt work out, but there was no way to know that it wouldn’t.
Pretty crazy that Stanton was on that Marlins team back then, wouldn’t have guessed he’d been around that long, off the top of my head.
Although it did work out as planned, Atleast none of the players we sent really did anything significant elsewhere. The Dickey trade obviously is a different story
Injuries. Injuries did us in.
This trade was always incredibly flawed. The Blue Jays would be paying free agent rates to Reyes and Buehrle but wouldn’t be receiving the first year of their services at these rates, which could reasonably be expected to be among the best years of their respective deals. It seems as though Reyes was never quite the same after the high ankle sprain he suffered in his first season with the club, and perhaps things could have turned out differently if the injury hadn’t occurred.
This trade is probably one that probably shouldn’t have happened, at least in the iteration that occurred. Josh Johnson was one of the key pieces coming the Blue Jays way and then Marlins GM David Samson reported in later years that Johnson actually failed his physical. I recall that it was also reported that Henderson Alvarez failed his physical as well, but Johnson was expected to be more of a top of the rotation arm for the Jays and this never materialized due to a series of injures which were quite frankly completely unsurprising.
Even though he was nearing the end I liked watching Buehrle pitch, he might have never been an ace but he was rock solid for the Sox for 10+ years, I still dont think he should’ve been off the post season roster.
Remember how it came out that Josh Johnson failed his physical and AA still did the deal?
Thank you for reminding me that 2013 Josh Johnson was a thing that we had to experience.
I really wish we had Buehrle for longer. He became a favorite of mine very quickly.
I had a Reyes jersey before the DV accusations came out. He was among my favourite players in baseball.
I think AA eventually learned to avoid this kind of move. I think he started the clock on his term here with it. In hindsight, he likely should have let the kids develop – but unlike now, with the owners willing to spend, this was how to go about adding talent when you couldn’t do it in free agency. The Jays at the time hadn’t sniffed the playoffs in 20 years and no one was lining up to come to the team. I think it’s different now and this trade kind of started that ball rolling. The Jays were no longer an afterthought- they were a contender again.
Alternatively if we took Stanton for basically free like the Yankees did we would have probably had a better couple of years there given we could have still spent the prospect capital on other needs.
It didn’t work and the Dickey trade was regrettable but I appreciated the big swings, and what came after. After years of no relevance, that felt so awesome. No regrets about those moves, tbh.
Who would’ve guessed that of all the players the Blue Jays received in this trade (and the Dickey one as well), Buehrle was the most valuable. Not I!
I still remember a Florida-based news station doing a story on how the trade would negatively impact the local economy there…
And I remember how exciting it was to get Price & Tulo.
Honestly, this all feels like it was 2 decades ago.
A good lesson that the biggest signing or trade or winning the offseason doesn’t mean you’ve turned your team around.
That was the day I promised to name my next dog Alex Anthopoulos. I am surprised that the MLB allowed that trade.
Josh Johnson 2008 to 2011 was such a stud. What could’ve been man….
If anyone here hasn’t read the book on the 2013 season from John Lott and Shi David, you absolutely need to. One of the best baseball books I’ve read.
Was so excited…….for nothing.
Zero wins for Josh Johnson.
The biggest blockbuster in sports
I remember Sportsnet replaying the 92 and 93 World Series games and they ended up being out of it by late May 😆
25 comments
This was an incredible day, as a Jays fan. Too bad Reyes immediately got hurt, and Josh Johnson became permanently possessed by a pumpkin. That was, as someone who was too young to remember 92/93, my first day of true ecstatic excitement as a Jays fan.
Imagine we waited a few more years before dealing all that prospect capital.
i remember after the trade they played a ton of 1992/3 playoff games. the hype was real, and then JP couldn’t catch a knuckleball in the home opener and the season was cursed
On paper, this was an amazing trade.
It’s a shame it didnt work out, but there was no way to know that it wouldn’t.
Pretty crazy that Stanton was on that Marlins team back then, wouldn’t have guessed he’d been around that long, off the top of my head.
Although it did work out as planned, Atleast none of the players we sent really did anything significant elsewhere. The Dickey trade obviously is a different story
Injuries. Injuries did us in.
This trade was always incredibly flawed. The Blue Jays would be paying free agent rates to Reyes and Buehrle but wouldn’t be receiving the first year of their services at these rates, which could reasonably be expected to be among the best years of their respective deals. It seems as though Reyes was never quite the same after the high ankle sprain he suffered in his first season with the club, and perhaps things could have turned out differently if the injury hadn’t occurred.
This trade is probably one that probably shouldn’t have happened, at least in the iteration that occurred. Josh Johnson was one of the key pieces coming the Blue Jays way and then Marlins GM David Samson reported in later years that Johnson actually failed his physical. I recall that it was also reported that Henderson Alvarez failed his physical as well, but Johnson was expected to be more of a top of the rotation arm for the Jays and this never materialized due to a series of injures which were quite frankly completely unsurprising.
Even though he was nearing the end I liked watching Buehrle pitch, he might have never been an ace but he was rock solid for the Sox for 10+ years, I still dont think he should’ve been off the post season roster.
Remember how it came out that Josh Johnson failed his physical and AA still did the deal?
Thank you for reminding me that 2013 Josh Johnson was a thing that we had to experience.
I really wish we had Buehrle for longer. He became a favorite of mine very quickly.
I had a Reyes jersey before the DV accusations came out. He was among my favourite players in baseball.
I think AA eventually learned to avoid this kind of move. I think he started the clock on his term here with it. In hindsight, he likely should have let the kids develop – but unlike now, with the owners willing to spend, this was how to go about adding talent when you couldn’t do it in free agency. The Jays at the time hadn’t sniffed the playoffs in 20 years and no one was lining up to come to the team. I think it’s different now and this trade kind of started that ball rolling. The Jays were no longer an afterthought- they were a contender again.
Alternatively if we took Stanton for basically free like the Yankees did we would have probably had a better couple of years there given we could have still spent the prospect capital on other needs.
It didn’t work and the Dickey trade was regrettable but I appreciated the big swings, and what came after. After years of no relevance, that felt so awesome. No regrets about those moves, tbh.
Who would’ve guessed that of all the players the Blue Jays received in this trade (and the Dickey one as well), Buehrle was the most valuable. Not I!
I still remember a Florida-based news station doing a story on how the trade would negatively impact the local economy there…
And I remember how exciting it was to get Price & Tulo.
Honestly, this all feels like it was 2 decades ago.
A good lesson that the biggest signing or trade or winning the offseason doesn’t mean you’ve turned your team around.
That was the day I promised to name my next dog Alex Anthopoulos. I am surprised that the MLB allowed that trade.
Josh Johnson 2008 to 2011 was such a stud. What could’ve been man….
If anyone here hasn’t read the book on the 2013 season from John Lott and Shi David, you absolutely need to. One of the best baseball books I’ve read.
Was so excited…….for nothing.
Zero wins for Josh Johnson.
The biggest blockbuster in sports
I remember Sportsnet replaying the 92 and 93 World Series games and they ended up being out of it by late May 😆