50 doubles and 50 homeruns. Will it ever happen again?
November 17, 2024
50 doubles and 50 homeruns. Will it ever happen again?
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Definitely harder as players have gotten faster and ballpark outfields have gotten smaller
My real takeaway here is shock that Mo Vaughn somehow stole 11 bases.
He was a dick and the writers hated him.
Belle wasn’t the MVP because Belle didn’t like talking to the media and wasn’t shy about letting them know that whereas Vaughn was a jolly fat guy for a while who also drove in a lot of runs.
Writers didn’t like Joey
Some quick research shows that Derrik Lee had 50 doubles and 46 homers in 2005 and Pujols had 45 doubles and 47 homers in 2009. In 2004 Pujols had 51 doubles and 46 homers. Other than those 3, no one has been particularly close to 50-50 season in homers and doubles. Learn something new everyday.
A while back on here I saw a guy argue passionately that John Valentin should’ve been MVP over both of them
Voters vote with their emotions and feelings.
Sometimes they lie to and tell you “highest WAR gets it”, then you see the guy with the highest WAR get snubbed.
Other times is highest WAR, most homers, most RBI’s. Then that guy gets snubbed too.
Then it’s, he has to have the highest WAR and be a nice guy too. Then that guy gets snubbed too.
Every year it’s something different.
In a season that was only 144 games instead of the usual 162, due to the 1994 strike.
He was an asshole to reporters.
He was an asshole, and baseball is full of traditionalist with unwritten judgement and rules about petty BS
Used to be an autograph hound back in the 90s (I live in Toronto). Belle comes walking down the street and we let a little girl from Cleveland approach him first. He angrily tells her to fuck off as he passes her (and the rest of us) straight. Thankfully she probably did not know what “fuck off” means.
Because Mo Vaughn regularly held media days at the Foxy Lady in Providence Rhode Island and would slam 39 winds every time he went.
Probably because of his corked bat
Thank you, Mo Vaughn. MVP, all-star, and the reason why there are guard rails in front of every dugout.
That dude was a beast
You are a writer don’t let your personal feelings get involved. Albert was robbed of that mvp . I’ll die on this hill !!!!
How the fuck did Mo Vaughn steal 11 bases?? Was a toddler playing catcher??
Belle hated the media, and they hated him. Guess who votes in the mvp.
MVP argument aside, Belle had a 6/7 year stretch that was flat out unreal. Just monster stats.
He had so much power and he didn’t even strike out all that much. Dude was a unicorn.
Also, the irony is, if not Albert Belle that year, Frank Thomas had a comparable, if not better season than Vaughn as well.
Ummmmm – because baseball reporters – almost uniquely among all the major sports, up until very recently – had the proverbial stick up their asses about ‘gentlemanly behavior’ and ‘the right way to play’ and punished players that didn’t kiss their asses.
And hypocrisy – BB and Clemens and other alleged steroid users aren’t in the HoF but greenie abusers (legion) and outright racists (Cap Anson, Kennesaw Landis) are.
But Albert Belle made millions to play a game, I’m sure he’s ok.
Because the V in MVP doesn’t stand for‘Vitriolic’.
It’s because Belle was one of the biggest assholes to ever put on a uniform. Even his own teammates didn’t like him.
Writers and their fragile egos. Name a better duo.
It’s because he was an asshole
Stolen bases were very valuable back then and clearly the difference maker.
I think this is the most underrated milestone in sports. Will it be done again? It could. But it’s so underrated how crazy it is that he hit the ball well enough to hit 50 out of the park and 50 that stayed in the park but were good enough for him to get extra bases.
The people who vote are just salty gate keepers
He was pretty hated by the media which is a dumb reason for getting snubbed.
He was like Mike Tyson of baseball back then. Incredible hitter; terrible attitude. Makes bonds look like Mr Rodgers in comparison
He was robbed smh
Sportswriters were assholes.
Sportswriters loved Kirby Puckett. We se how that turned out.
Lowest WAR for an MVP ever?
He was abrasive and indifferent towards the writers, so when it came down to the race for MVP, the writers gave to Vaughn because of his stats and to screw over Belle.
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Definitely harder as players have gotten faster and ballpark outfields have gotten smaller
My real takeaway here is shock that Mo Vaughn somehow stole 11 bases.
He was a dick and the writers hated him.
Belle wasn’t the MVP because Belle didn’t like talking to the media and wasn’t shy about letting them know that whereas Vaughn was a jolly fat guy for a while who also drove in a lot of runs.
Writers didn’t like Joey
Some quick research shows that Derrik Lee had 50 doubles and 46 homers in 2005 and Pujols had 45 doubles and 47 homers in 2009. In 2004 Pujols had 51 doubles and 46 homers. Other than those 3, no one has been particularly close to 50-50 season in homers and doubles. Learn something new everyday.
A while back on here I saw a guy argue passionately that John Valentin should’ve been MVP over both of them
Voters vote with their emotions and feelings.
Sometimes they lie to and tell you “highest WAR gets it”, then you see the guy with the highest WAR get snubbed.
Other times is highest WAR, most homers, most RBI’s. Then that guy gets snubbed too.
Then it’s, he has to have the highest WAR and be a nice guy too. Then that guy gets snubbed too.
Every year it’s something different.
In a season that was only 144 games instead of the usual 162, due to the 1994 strike.
He was an asshole to reporters.
He was an asshole, and baseball is full of traditionalist with unwritten judgement and rules about petty BS
Used to be an autograph hound back in the 90s (I live in Toronto). Belle comes walking down the street and we let a little girl from Cleveland approach him first. He angrily tells her to fuck off as he passes her (and the rest of us) straight. Thankfully she probably did not know what “fuck off” means.
Because Mo Vaughn regularly held media days at the Foxy Lady in Providence Rhode Island and would slam 39 winds every time he went.
Probably because of his corked bat
Thank you, Mo Vaughn. MVP, all-star, and the reason why there are guard rails in front of every dugout.
That dude was a beast
You are a writer don’t let your personal feelings get involved. Albert was robbed of that mvp . I’ll die on this hill !!!!
How the fuck did Mo Vaughn steal 11 bases?? Was a toddler playing catcher??
Belle hated the media, and they hated him. Guess who votes in the mvp.
MVP argument aside, Belle had a 6/7 year stretch that was flat out unreal. Just monster stats.
He had so much power and he didn’t even strike out all that much. Dude was a unicorn.
Also, the irony is, if not Albert Belle that year, Frank Thomas had a comparable, if not better season than Vaughn as well.
Ummmmm – because baseball reporters – almost uniquely among all the major sports, up until very recently – had the proverbial stick up their asses about ‘gentlemanly behavior’ and ‘the right way to play’ and punished players that didn’t kiss their asses.
And hypocrisy – BB and Clemens and other alleged steroid users aren’t in the HoF but greenie abusers (legion) and outright racists (Cap Anson, Kennesaw Landis) are.
But Albert Belle made millions to play a game, I’m sure he’s ok.
Because the V in MVP doesn’t stand for‘Vitriolic’.
It’s because Belle was one of the biggest assholes to ever put on a uniform. Even his own teammates didn’t like him.
Writers and their fragile egos. Name a better duo.
It’s because he was an asshole
Stolen bases were very valuable back then and clearly the difference maker.
I think this is the most underrated milestone in sports. Will it be done again? It could. But it’s so underrated how crazy it is that he hit the ball well enough to hit 50 out of the park and 50 that stayed in the park but were good enough for him to get extra bases.
The people who vote are just salty gate keepers
He was pretty hated by the media which is a dumb reason for getting snubbed.
He was like Mike Tyson of baseball back then. Incredible hitter; terrible attitude. Makes bonds look like Mr Rodgers in comparison
He was robbed smh
Sportswriters were assholes.
Sportswriters loved Kirby Puckett. We se how that turned out.
Lowest WAR for an MVP ever?
He was abrasive and indifferent towards the writers, so when it came down to the race for MVP, the writers gave to Vaughn because of his stats and to screw over Belle.
He was a huge asshole