Interesting Notes from Vladdy Interview with Abriendo Sports Translated
December 23, 2024
Credit to @jorgee416 on Twitter for the translations.
45 comments
Depression.
Sounds like this front office might end up driving out one of the few bright spots left.
Curious what his number is
Ffs
Well, I said it when Soto signed, and this is just confirming it, Vladdy will be playing elsewhere in 2026 and we’re going back to a rebuild.
If he leaves in free agency this FO will never hear the end of it
That interview in 2019 was the Arash one, right? Where he said Vlad doesn’t go to the gym?
Epic fail of this front office will just be letting vladdy go for nothing if that happens. They must be fired? Or maybe ed rogers doesnt care because canada is in its own shitters compared to US.
Why did the person who translated this take it personally that Atkins didn’t go to the arbitration hearing? With how the process works he really doesn’t need to be…
Damn, he’s really gone isn’t he
See ya Vladdy, been fun while it lasted.
The arb hearing was such a disaster of an idea last year. Haggling over a million dollars. This Front Office are friggen idiots. Frighting over $1M and staining the relationship with your franchise player a year before free agency. What a shit show!
Ed, fire them now
My two thoughts on this are
-fuck you, Charlie Montoyo
-just get the extension done, I’m not going to take any of this to mean that the relationship between team and player has soured at all. If there were mental and personal problems weighing down his 2022 and 2023 then that’s even more reason to trust his future is going to be much more like his 2021 and 2024 and it’s worth it to just meet somewhere close to his number
Reinforces the fact that Ross has completely bungled this situation. Which is par for the course for him.
Honestly with FA not looking great the next few years, why not just give him exactly what he wants?
We have so many guys coming off the books soon the short term luxury tax overage wouldn’t really matter
I hope I’m not being hyperbolic, but I can’t remember a higher stakes contract negotiation in organization I’ve personally been a fan of.
He has given them a number and we now know they can meet it.
Not signing Vladdy would be an absolute disaster and death sentence in terms of fan sentiment.
Vladdy has this management over a barrel and I am afraid the FO will be stubborn enough to choose self destruction.
He gone.
Fuck Atkins. Even if he was told not to go…. What a shitty look. This whole situation is so fucking sad it’s bothersome to me.
Honestly I think this gives hope for a deal. This is clearly (correct me if I’m wrong) him putting pressure on the FO to sign a deal.
That means, at the very least, he wants to sign one. If he wanted to hundo p go to free agency, he wouldn’t be doing this.
Hopeing that means cooler heads prevail and Shapiro / Atkins / Ed realize what Vlad means to the fanbase and extend him
If he wants 500m + it has to be on a 15 year type deal like Soto. He’s a 1B who is terrible on the basepaths and not exactly stellar defensively. You cannot tie up that kind of money on 1B. I get that he’s the fan favourite and he’s the catalyst of the offense, but at some point u have to decide if it’s worth it. At that price, he is not. Trade him if u can’t get a number that works for both.
It’s nice to see a player open up like this. Bo would never give an interview like this.
I still hold on to hope that 400M can get it done
If I was Vlad, I’d Mash this year and go to FA. I want him to stay, but reading between the lines of this transcript, I feel there are other teams that would jump at the chance to show him they value him more than our FO. Not just from a monetary perspective.
If it’s all about business, make it about business young man! Get paid!
Vote with your money folks, this FO has bungled this era so badly they won’t be getting mine next year
Pretty sure that arb is primarily handled by the team’s outside counsel of choice and a league representative. It’s not unusual for the AGM that is tasked with Arb that winter to be the team’s representative.
It’s not like Ross was like “this is not important” and negotiated on a napkin, and then sent an intern or something. All of this standard operating procedure for this kind of stuff.
That being said, not bridging the gap with a key player may prove to be poor judgment and poor business on their part. Be mad that they let it get to a hearing, don’t be mad about who showed up for the hearing.
A weird look for him to publicly disclose contract offers in an interview.
Could have had him and Bo for what it would cost for just Vlad now, and he’s gonna walk and going to have Angels level production that his father had.. just watch
Interesting indeed. Determining an appropriate value for himself relative to Ohtani seems like a poor metric to use given the vast differences in their abilities and contributions
It’s tough cause we obviously all want him to stay but it looks like he’s seeing the contracts shoei and Soto got and says why not me but it’s kinda glaring why not him, he doesn’t play a premium position nor does he play his own position well, and he hasn’t produced like those 2 have consistently.
Also you look around the league on how 1B players are being treated it’s doesn’t look good, yes he’s 26-27 but I don’t think any team is going to pay a premium for 1B.
I don’t think the FO will get close to 500 so if his ask is around that we’re probably watching his last season as a Jay.
This is not trending in the right direction, fellas.
The FO is so incompetent and incapable of building trust with its players
the latest *At the Letters* was really trying to sell everyone on letting Vlad play out the season and then solicit offers in FA for the Jays to match. it was very corporate “shill”-y.
Given Vladdy’s highs and lows, part of my thinks this isn’t a bad idea, but the other part of me that has a heart is worried it will be broken.
The decision to chase Soto and Ohtani was not very smart. Not only were the Blue Jays used as leverage to get both of these guys paid, but a rising tide lifts all boats. We just made it more expensive to sign our pending free agents.
Fuck Atkins and fuck Shapiro. By the time they are run out of town the franchise as we know it will be left in shambles staring at another rebuild. Fancy renos in an empty stadium. Officially done with this team if they don’t sign Vladdy. It was not even 10 years ago I went to 20+ games plus the entire playoff run of 2015. The Jays are losing their most loyal fans slowly but surely due to an incompetent FO.
This team will forever be in rebuild mode akin to teams like the Pirates and Tigers.
Might as well trade him now and get something decent. He’s on the first flight out. We’re toast this season anyway, look at what everyone else in the division has done. We’re not even close.
I love Vladdy but the reality is that he plays 1B. It’s the easiest position to fill. He should not be untouchable.
He’s the best player we’ve got, by a wide margin, and a ton of other money is coming off the books in 25/26. There’s no reason not to pay him.
Also it would hurt my heart if he left. Please pay him lol
Giving this FO anymore time than it already has had, let alone until end of ST is extremely fucking generous.
If they don’t extend him, I don’t doubt a HUGE chunk of the fanbase walks away from fandom until they clean house.
Absolute managerial malpractice since 2021
I’m going to play devil’s advocate and say that Vladdy is partially responsible for fucking it up for himself in for arriving overweight and landing himself in the spotlight.
Anyone should remember how much backlash Vladdy took along with Manoah for being overweight in the ’22 and ’23 seasons. There were non-stop discussions on social media and MSM about how maybe Vladdy is NOT a generational hitter and more so an above league average 1B. Obviously he turned it around in ’24.
However this is baggage that Vladdy built for himself and he should take a bit of responsibility carrying.
Not a lot of that is a surprise. The move to 1B was done as a punishment for arriving out of shape, it’s also noted that the Jays were super annoyed with his personal camp in 2022-2023 when it came to hitting and mechanical adjustments – he was spoken to by VMart, Baustisa and EE about this again in May 2024. He’s not worth what Ohtani or Soto got on the market. Both are superior hitters and Soto is while bad still a better RF defender than Guerrero is at 1B.
I’d be interested to know what he’s after at an extension because if that $340m is over 10-12 years you’re in the low to mid 30 AAV which is probably a good spot for him to be. He’s only had two great seasons and one slightly above average season with three shit seasons in there so even at 32-34m/season there’s still a lot of risk to Toronto.
If he’s not signing before spring training he’s 100% gonzo
If they don’t sign Vladdy they might as well fold the team and move them elsewhere. Fuck your renovated dome. This is how you kill baseball in Toronto.
14 years/450 mil just do it
A lot of people arguing about if vlad is worth the monsy, and not asking the infinitley more important question of if we dont pay him, what are we doing with that money? We havent landed any of the other big names out there, i know hes expensive, but even so he wants to be here, which we cant say for most other young super stars
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Depression.
Sounds like this front office might end up driving out one of the few bright spots left.
Curious what his number is
Ffs
Well, I said it when Soto signed, and this is just confirming it, Vladdy will be playing elsewhere in 2026 and we’re going back to a rebuild.
If he leaves in free agency this FO will never hear the end of it
That interview in 2019 was the Arash one, right? Where he said Vlad doesn’t go to the gym?
Epic fail of this front office will just be letting vladdy go for nothing if that happens. They must be fired? Or maybe ed rogers doesnt care because canada is in its own shitters compared to US.
Why did the person who translated this take it personally that Atkins didn’t go to the arbitration hearing? With how the process works he really doesn’t need to be…
Damn, he’s really gone isn’t he
See ya Vladdy, been fun while it lasted.
The arb hearing was such a disaster of an idea last year. Haggling over a million dollars. This Front Office are friggen idiots. Frighting over $1M and staining the relationship with your franchise player a year before free agency. What a shit show!
Ed, fire them now
My two thoughts on this are
-fuck you, Charlie Montoyo
-just get the extension done, I’m not going to take any of this to mean that the relationship between team and player has soured at all. If there were mental and personal problems weighing down his 2022 and 2023 then that’s even more reason to trust his future is going to be much more like his 2021 and 2024 and it’s worth it to just meet somewhere close to his number
Reinforces the fact that Ross has completely bungled this situation. Which is par for the course for him.
Honestly with FA not looking great the next few years, why not just give him exactly what he wants?
We have so many guys coming off the books soon the short term luxury tax overage wouldn’t really matter
I hope I’m not being hyperbolic, but I can’t remember a higher stakes contract negotiation in organization I’ve personally been a fan of.
He has given them a number and we now know they can meet it.
Not signing Vladdy would be an absolute disaster and death sentence in terms of fan sentiment.
Vladdy has this management over a barrel and I am afraid the FO will be stubborn enough to choose self destruction.
He gone.
Fuck Atkins. Even if he was told not to go…. What a shitty look. This whole situation is so fucking sad it’s bothersome to me.
Honestly I think this gives hope for a deal. This is clearly (correct me if I’m wrong) him putting pressure on the FO to sign a deal.
That means, at the very least, he wants to sign one. If he wanted to hundo p go to free agency, he wouldn’t be doing this.
Hopeing that means cooler heads prevail and Shapiro / Atkins / Ed realize what Vlad means to the fanbase and extend him
If he wants 500m + it has to be on a 15 year type deal like Soto. He’s a 1B who is terrible on the basepaths and not exactly stellar defensively. You cannot tie up that kind of money on 1B. I get that he’s the fan favourite and he’s the catalyst of the offense, but at some point u have to decide if it’s worth it. At that price, he is not. Trade him if u can’t get a number that works for both.
It’s nice to see a player open up like this. Bo would never give an interview like this.
I still hold on to hope that 400M can get it done
If I was Vlad, I’d Mash this year and go to FA. I want him to stay, but reading between the lines of this transcript, I feel there are other teams that would jump at the chance to show him they value him more than our FO. Not just from a monetary perspective.
If it’s all about business, make it about business young man! Get paid!
Vote with your money folks, this FO has bungled this era so badly they won’t be getting mine next year
Pretty sure that arb is primarily handled by the team’s outside counsel of choice and a league representative. It’s not unusual for the AGM that is tasked with Arb that winter to be the team’s representative.
It’s not like Ross was like “this is not important” and negotiated on a napkin, and then sent an intern or something. All of this standard operating procedure for this kind of stuff.
That being said, not bridging the gap with a key player may prove to be poor judgment and poor business on their part. Be mad that they let it get to a hearing, don’t be mad about who showed up for the hearing.
A weird look for him to publicly disclose contract offers in an interview.
Could have had him and Bo for what it would cost for just Vlad now, and he’s gonna walk and going to have Angels level production that his father had.. just watch
Interesting indeed. Determining an appropriate value for himself relative to Ohtani seems like a poor metric to use given the vast differences in their abilities and contributions
It’s tough cause we obviously all want him to stay but it looks like he’s seeing the contracts shoei and Soto got and says why not me but it’s kinda glaring why not him, he doesn’t play a premium position nor does he play his own position well, and he hasn’t produced like those 2 have consistently.
Also you look around the league on how 1B players are being treated it’s doesn’t look good, yes he’s 26-27 but I don’t think any team is going to pay a premium for 1B.
I don’t think the FO will get close to 500 so if his ask is around that we’re probably watching his last season as a Jay.
This is not trending in the right direction, fellas.
The FO is so incompetent and incapable of building trust with its players
the latest *At the Letters* was really trying to sell everyone on letting Vlad play out the season and then solicit offers in FA for the Jays to match. it was very corporate “shill”-y.
Given Vladdy’s highs and lows, part of my thinks this isn’t a bad idea, but the other part of me that has a heart is worried it will be broken.
The decision to chase Soto and Ohtani was not very smart. Not only were the Blue Jays used as leverage to get both of these guys paid, but a rising tide lifts all boats. We just made it more expensive to sign our pending free agents.
Fuck Atkins and fuck Shapiro. By the time they are run out of town the franchise as we know it will be left in shambles staring at another rebuild. Fancy renos in an empty stadium. Officially done with this team if they don’t sign Vladdy. It was not even 10 years ago I went to 20+ games plus the entire playoff run of 2015. The Jays are losing their most loyal fans slowly but surely due to an incompetent FO.
This team will forever be in rebuild mode akin to teams like the Pirates and Tigers.
Might as well trade him now and get something decent. He’s on the first flight out. We’re toast this season anyway, look at what everyone else in the division has done. We’re not even close.
I love Vladdy but the reality is that he plays 1B. It’s the easiest position to fill. He should not be untouchable.
He’s the best player we’ve got, by a wide margin, and a ton of other money is coming off the books in 25/26. There’s no reason not to pay him.
Also it would hurt my heart if he left. Please pay him lol
Giving this FO anymore time than it already has had, let alone until end of ST is extremely fucking generous.
If they don’t extend him, I don’t doubt a HUGE chunk of the fanbase walks away from fandom until they clean house.
Absolute managerial malpractice since 2021
I’m going to play devil’s advocate and say that Vladdy is partially responsible for fucking it up for himself in for arriving overweight and landing himself in the spotlight.
Anyone should remember how much backlash Vladdy took along with Manoah for being overweight in the ’22 and ’23 seasons. There were non-stop discussions on social media and MSM about how maybe Vladdy is NOT a generational hitter and more so an above league average 1B. Obviously he turned it around in ’24.
However this is baggage that Vladdy built for himself and he should take a bit of responsibility carrying.
Not a lot of that is a surprise. The move to 1B was done as a punishment for arriving out of shape, it’s also noted that the Jays were super annoyed with his personal camp in 2022-2023 when it came to hitting and mechanical adjustments – he was spoken to by VMart, Baustisa and EE about this again in May 2024. He’s not worth what Ohtani or Soto got on the market. Both are superior hitters and Soto is while bad still a better RF defender than Guerrero is at 1B.
I’d be interested to know what he’s after at an extension because if that $340m is over 10-12 years you’re in the low to mid 30 AAV which is probably a good spot for him to be. He’s only had two great seasons and one slightly above average season with three shit seasons in there so even at 32-34m/season there’s still a lot of risk to Toronto.
If he’s not signing before spring training he’s 100% gonzo
If they don’t sign Vladdy they might as well fold the team and move them elsewhere. Fuck your renovated dome. This is how you kill baseball in Toronto.
14 years/450 mil just do it
A lot of people arguing about if vlad is worth the monsy, and not asking the infinitley more important question of if we dont pay him, what are we doing with that money? We havent landed any of the other big names out there, i know hes expensive, but even so he wants to be here, which we cant say for most other young super stars