Why Burrow deserves Pro Bowl with Lamar, Mahomes over Allen, Packers vs Vikings | FIRST THINGS FIRST

Nick Wright, Chris Broussard, Kevin Wildes and Coach Eric Mangini predict which of the AFC’s Big 4 quarterbacks will be left out of the Pro Bowl between Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen and Joe Burrow. They then predict who wins between the Green Bay Packers and Minnesota Vikings.

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  1. Jordan gets more comfortable week by week he's now proven that 2 years in a row. If a QB is going to have a problem then that's definitely the best problem to have

  2. If Mahomes doesn’t win MVP they should take cam newtons and give it to Russ. Can win because he went 15-1. He was like the 14th best quarterback that year. His record was the ONLY reason he won MVP.

  3. Patrick is at another level, so much so that this isn’t a conversation. MVP means the teams most valuable player. Patrick absolutely the best player on a team that is 15-1 in its effort to get a three peat. This is such a silly conversation.

  4. Burrow has numbers but doesn't have wins.

    Mahomes doesnt have numbers but has wins.

    Allen and Lamar have both.

    Make it make sense.

    I really don't know if the whole premise of this show is Nick trolling with idiot takes and glazing Mahomes and KC just to pull clicks/views, but i would really appreciate some kind of objectivity.

  5. You know what's so hilarious about all of this…Joe Burrow is the best QB on this list, and I guarantee you HE HOPES HE DOESN'T GET PICKED FOR THE PRO BOWL. No top player cares about the Pro Bowl, and I promise you that Joe could absolutely care less

  6. If Patrick is throwing 18:2 in the past 9 weeks. That’s great QB play.

    Plain and simple.

    Patrick and Chiefs got here. Burrow, could use a little more luck.

    If Burrow, were perfect, they would’ve won ALL the close games this year. But he’s been, 90-98 A Grade.

    It’s kinda hard to be perfect.

    I don’t think or know Mahomes has ever had to be THAT perfect. But he sure has been beyond great.

    I think, they’re the best 2 passing QBs in the game. Mahomes and Burrow.

    Go Bengals, hope they can keep winning, burrows a heck of a QB.

  7. So let me get this straight Nick thinks Allen isn’t a pro bowler but he should be mvp. It’s lamar fatigue, but I think Nick personally hates on Lamar cause he’s the only real potential threat to Goat Mahommes

  8. An open letter to FTF. I started watching this show because of Nick Wright. I thought he very a very entertaining, analytical, and honest voice that was getting smothered and suppressed in those early years by hot take artists. With the new line up, he really thrived as an equal voice to his colleagues. Over the last two years however, Nick has been one a caricature of the few strong opinions that got him ahead. Instead of being an insightful analyst that bolsters the standard/humdrum takes with charm and charisma. He has chosen to kick those takes completely and marry his whole brand to be one of the most extreme opinion or nothing. He has become a person who doesn't care if he's wrong, he just wants to be the only one right. When everyone agrees chiefs are great, he has to differentiate by 20 and 0, when everyone knows Caleb is a great talent in a great situation, he has to go with Superbowl as the floor. It's been the same pattern for his opinions on Wiggins, Jokic, Purdy, Allen, Lamar, etc. I would call him a born contrarian but this is not the character that bought him to the forefront of sports media. He has simply pivoted his brand to that of the negative extremist. Skip Bayless did this with his LeBron takes and make a career of it. Nick, if you review your work – just look at how you talk about Purdy and the negative lense in which you approach that mans existence, then look at the prince, Caleb, and mahomes and the positive lense you approach their body of work. Marry those two and we will have the person that used to develop analysis from a neutral view. This version of you is exhausting. We can hear it in Brous voice debating you, it's not pleasant to challenge and certainly not pleasant to hear. Troll farming is prevalent enough online, you don't need to be a "troll" or the laughing stick or the punching bag for FTF fans. This group is amazing and you've gone from the best of them to dragging them down. Bring the old nick Wright back

  9. Wildes arguemnet of having a good defense penalizes the player is true, but it makes complete sense. If the team around you is very good, your inherently "less valuable", than somebody with a garbage defense. Thats how things work

  10. Ps the Chiefs have 1 RB rushing TD all season. It’s called stat padding folks. Mahomes has 11 of his 28 TD’s within 5 yards…… he ain’t that good yall

  11. That graphic with the QBs stats against each other is so unfair. Allen hasn’t had the chance to boost his numbers vs the Bengals defence like Mahomes and Lamar did.

  12. Fox let Nick Wrong talk like this with a straight nose face… it’s blasphemy. I know it’s a show media takes but his is just wrong every day other than his chiefs that save his journalism card if he get one… ridiculous…

  13. Lamar dominates on Christmas and doesn't get a segment 😂 nick is truly a hater talking bout passer rating not big or a deal then brings up burrow 😂 😂 Lamar plays so good that they have to bring his name up knowing they don't like him cus they was wrong since he came out of college

  14. if anything should strictly be about your stats it’s the pro bowl
    and all pro. sorry but mahomes should not be in either this yr 🤷🏾‍♂️ i don’t i ever remember a time where your teams record mattered for that especially the pro bowl. the team with the best record was usually in the super bowl those players weren’t playing in the pro bowl

  15. Bringing up Jordan Love’s pass attempts is getting tiring by Mangini every qb has a worse record with higher pass attempts because it means it is a close game or they are down instead of running the ball because they are up 14. I would hope a former head coach understands. I beg one of the analysts says this to him.

  16. Nick said Josh Allen is NOT a Pro-Bowler but he is MVP?😒🤔🤷‍♂️. How? When is the MVP not a Pro-Bowler? The media wants to give Josh Allen the MVP so bad. It's a SYMPATHY award because they DON'T WANT LAMAR to be a 3 time MVP…crazy. If its about record then Mahomes is 15-1 and Goff is 13-2. How is Josh more deserving than them

  17. Totally stupid. All pro should be Lamar and Allen. Probowl Lamar Allen Burrow. All of a sudden Allen isn't deserving of anything. mvp probowl All-pro. Wow. 2 weeks ago everyone literally said it was one of the best 4 game stretches ever by a QB. And he had MVP all but sealed up. Now he doesn't even deserve a probowl? He's the MVP. The media is totally against this man year in and year out. Its so messed up

  18. Nick pulls 1 of 50 votes last year for MVP that's not a Pro Bowler to defend his lunacy. C'mon, say it with me, in your best nasally squeaky mousy Nick voice possible: "the math tracks!!".

  19. This concept that a QB can't win a game and is considered not good enough when there is 11 other guys on the field when he is not that he has no control over is the dumbest argument I have heard this season. I don't care what team they are on. If a QB is putting up top stats in the entire league yet the defense of the team essentially lets the other team score every other drive. How is that the QB's fault. If Shohei Ohtani is batting .400 but the dodgers fall short of the playoffs. Does that mean he doesn't deserve to go to the All Star game because their pitchers are allowing 10 runs a game? What if a race car driver sets lap records every course, and is faster than everyone out their, but the pit crew takes 10-20 seconds every time they pit and the driver can't win a race. Is that the drivers fault? By everyone's logic Shohei and the race car driver aren't good enough to win games or races so they are terrible and not deserving. There are 21 other players on the field and a QB doesn't have control when defense is playing. How is it the QB's fault? Dumbest thing I have ever heard. Its as bad as counting champions when people compare players. "Well Jordan has 6 rings he is the greatest" Yeah? Well Russell has 11 so I guess Bill is the greatest.

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