Did The Carolina Hurricanes Fumble This Rantanen Situation? | SDP
Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake discuss the Mikko Rantanen trades and domino effect they had on the Carolina Hurricanes. Did GM Eric Tulsky do enough to fix their roster?
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Rantanen’s agent is the one who fumbled. The deal was close until he got Draisaitl that 14m. Suddenly talks stall, he starts playing hardball and Mikko gets shipped out of the only team he’s played for. Dude overestimated their leverage and started this whole thing.
God I wish our cheap ass owner didnt drag his feet with Guentzel. He was a perfect fit and wanted to be here. Also, I think Mikko’s camp has some blame for this situation for sure but the amount of salt from the other Canes fans is embarrassing. At the end of the day we took the risk, and I think it was worth a shot but nobody in the fan base wants to think the organization did anything wrong
As a Dallas fan, I am so happy how it all played out
He has been sensational in his first couple games for the Stars
Love when you guys talk about the Canes no matter the circumstances, y’all had some great perspective on this and it’s entertaining as always. Keep it up fellas
Listening to the new Tulsky interview it seems like he was told when trading they had a shot to extend and Mikko quickly said no. I don’t see this as a big deal for the Hurricanes short term or long term. Carolina has plenty of cap and draft assets to improve
When they talked to his agent before the trade and his camp said they were only thinking of signing with Colorado, Carolina had their answer. They hoped they could change Mikkos mind and a few weeks in Brindamours system, mikko knew he didnt fit. Still the canes did well to get 2 firsts, a second, 2 thirds and Stankhoven for Necas and Drury. But they are not better today then a couple months ago.
Rantanen’s agent fumbled first, if we take Rantanen reaction to the trade in consideration, which was total surprise and sadness, it’s obvious he wanted to stay in Colorado.
The second fumble was from Carolina … by making such a huge trade without guarantees or at least indications Rantanen could sign in Carolina.
3rd fumble is on the pro scouting department, Rantanen was simply not a fit to Carolina’s system, it looks like an offer came out of nowhere on a big name and the GM jumped the shark immediately without any feedbacks.
You have to be kidding , is this clickbait question?
100% CAR won look at all the picks and how good the players they got are playing!
This was so weird. It was like one guy made the deal for Rantanen. Then an another guy decided to get rid of him.
So GM and Owner.
i'd have tried to win the cup with Rantanen. If they succeeded he probably would sign.
The Mitch Marner thing and Carolina thing with Rantanen are the same situation. The teams made bad decisions and ceded control to the player. Toronto is comfortable with this. Carolina is not. Knowing that they shouldn't trade Necas for Stankovem.
The worst thing that Carolina could have done is keep Rantanen and get nothing for him (in comparison to what they did get at the Trade Deadline from Dallas). Obviously, how they manage those future picks and whatever All-Star talent they acquire will determine the final outcome. But there's still a chance that all of Colorado, Dallas, and Carolina could emerge as winners in this weird moment in time. The next 10 years of this Trade Tree will be incredible to watch.
Or they sign someone big in Free Agency and still have those future picks to get other assets later. Which I would argue is even better.
As a Canes fan, final outcome of it all is fine with me. Think Avs came out well, and Dallas came out well too.
Rantanen looked pretty good first 5 or 6 games. Didn’t look good final 5 or 6 games. Looked downright dreadful last 2 games. Think that kind of tells you it was a worthwhile trade to Dallas in the end. He wasnt going to fit here.
Canes are a dark horse at best for the cup this year. Even with Rantanen added considering the team struggling with him. Tulsky cut bait, got a really good return in Stankoven and 2 firsts, 2 thirds.
Sure, it was a little messy, but in the end it was Necas + Drury +2nd for Stankoven + Hall + 2 1sts + 2 3rds. I can't complain about that. Learning lesson for Tulsky.
And as a Necas fan, happy he got moved to a team that fits his style better. Drury would do well in any system, so happy he's on a contender at least.
My guess is Canes management didn't run the trade by Brind'Amour. He might've said something along the lines of, "I don't know, he doesn't really fit in our system."
it's funny.. you mention Guentzel, but skip the quote Rod had about him in the same interview you're referencing… Guentzel didn't sign in Carolina because of cap issues… he wanted to stay, and Carolina didn't meet his demands until the day before the deadline… at least finish the Rod soundbite
Mitch going to Carolina in the offseason gonna make his trade request snub hurt even more
Listen, Rantanen is a very good player. But let’s not pretend playing with MacKinnon and Makar doesn’t boost his point total by a minimum of 35 points a year. He’s not a #1 talent.
Hes not a Draisaitl that carries Edmonton when McDavid doesn’t.
The canes were a stepping stone, if I was a canes fan I'd be pissed.
Rantanen lost respect around the league and amongst the NHL fanbase. This is warranted, there is a reason why it's a topic of discussion.
STFU hahahah Guentzel wanted to stay, Tulsky AND ROD have both said that… they just came up with the cash too slow. Canadian media (I'm Canadian) has zero sense of markets like Carolina.
Good to see their opinions still sway like the wind and still can’t be taken seriously. Basically “the quartering” of hockey YouTube channels, just a bunch of click bait sell outs who are more for entertainment rather than actual information.
NOPE! Guentzel wanted to stay in Carolina, but the Canes dragged their feet on the offer so he left. Completely different situation from Rantanen. Y'all are just talking out your a$$
If you have seen Rantanen play you’d know Rod spoke the truth.
Cheap owner
So some research, Jake fit great and wanted to sign and GMDW played games and didn’t meet his number until too late due to us having a cap crunch
These same guys bitched for years about how Toronto would do the own rental thing and get no returns in a year where they’re not going to win the cup like JVR. Carolina is not a cup contender this year, look at the defense and look at the center depth. So when they make a sensible move to retain future assets and get capital instead of losing 3 players (Necas, Drury and Rantanen) total over the space of like 5 months. The “Oh Carolina messed up, cheap owner, bad management etc. “ narrative is complete BS. You guys shoot from the hip so much on any non traditional hockey market it’s embarrassing. Don’t even bother listening to the full interview or bother reading the transcript. these guys are given hockey commentary/journalism credit what a joke.
Listen to Marek's interview of Tulsky on the Sheet I beg you
And yet everybody still forgetting about Taylor Hall
This is just misinformation guys