Barring no FA additions to the center positions, and no trades, what do you think we end up doing? Do we move a Copp or Compher to the wing or do we really have a 4th line center making 5+ mil.? With Kasper playing so good I don’t see a reason to move him from 2C.
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Both copp and compher have played wing about as often as they have played c for us, theres really no reason to expect one has to center the 4th line…
It was always the hope the kasper would be 2c for this team and copp and compher in general were plugs for this team in a rebuild. This isn’t really a problem and is more the ideal result but none of us can speak to exactly how they want to field the lineup next year. There are way too many variables at this point in time.
When is danielson projecting to arrive? And is he going to play center?
Man that’s a bad roster.
If Kane departs, Debrincat needs to be up on the top line. He’s our best forward and a deadly 1st line and weak 2nd line is better than 2 mid lines. Hopefully we can get a real top 6 player to play on the second line in the off season.
You simply cannot have a $5+ million dollar guy centering your 4th line
Kasper is now our #2 C. I would bet my mortgage that Tarasenko is bought out. He is everything Yzerman hates in prospects, and it would save the team money.
Danielson, Lombardi and Mazur are going to be fighting for spots. My guess is Mazur and Lombardi find spots, and Danielson brought up like Kasper and eventually be 3C, pushing Copp down to a much more favorable 4C spot.
My #1 is Marner. He would be perfect for Kane’s role with Debrincat and Kasper. Boeser is also a solid target. Also need a top D man, Seider, Edvinsson, ASP, and Johansson are all set for next year, not including Buium and Wallinder fighting for a spot too
Who cares? It doesn’t fit the timeline of building through the draft. /s
Those Copp and Compher contracts are awful. Tarasenkos has aged like milk too
I’m very okay with that top 9. If we can build a 4th line with a little more bite and snarl. I’d say that’s a pretty competitive forward unit. Assuming Kasper, Elmer and Danielson take another step forward.
Spend the money on a stop gap RHD that can play 2nd/3rd pairing while we figure out ASP
Edvinsson – Seider Aljo – UFA RHD Chairot – ASP
A strong defensive unit. Assuming we can grab a RHD some how/some way.
Tarasenko? He gone at the end of this year
Inshallah that 3rd line is 50% incorrect
We better be adding a C2
I’m afraid they may even get worse…
Kasper will be our 2C. I think Danielson will make the jump at some point next year to 3C or 2/3 line Winger. Copp and Compher will continue to float between 3C and Wing. Tarasenko needs to be traded (without us getting rid of a good draft pick) or bought out. DeBrincat needs to be cementd into the 1st line with Larkin and Raymond unless we could get a true superstar LW
Picking 10th again next year in style!
Compher, Tarasenko, Rasmussen need to be off the team.
Danielson will make the team out of camp.
My guess for lines next season:
Mazur – Larkin – Raymond
DeBrincat – Kasper – Kane
Compher – Copp – Tarasenko
??? – Rasmussen – Soderblom
I think ideally we move on from Tarasenko and Compher this off-season, but if we can’t (Compher especially could be hard to move) that’s making the most of what we have / what we’re willing to do. If Buchelnikov comes over that changes things a lot though.
The LW1 has been a glaring hole all season minus the short time Kasper was up there. Kasper has been good with Cat on the second line, so they really need to find someone who can keep up with Ray and Larks.
Soda (or free agent idk) – Larkin – Raymond
Mazur – Kasper – DeBrincat
Ras – Copp – comp her
Watson – Lombardi – Berggren
Buy out Tarasenko or trade him for nothing. I don’t hate this lineup, but no matter what the defense needs *way* more work. I think our goalies are fine.
I did not realize Copp and Compher are making that much. Wtf.
If we can resign kaner, I would really like us to go get a guy who can play with larks and razor. No offense to ras or soda they aren’t top line guys. They just look out of place when slotted there.
Maybe get elhers for 3-4 years? He’s a proven top 6 guy. Can skate with the top line would fit well with there play style.
But Larkin and Raymond have to have someone who can keep up with them next year. And I don’t see anyone in the org who can other than Kasper but the cat Kasper Kane line I wouldn’t break up.
I’d expect to see something more like this:
Kasper-Larkin-Raymond
Debrincat-Copp-UFA (or Kane)
Rasmussen-Compher-Danielson (or switch around Compher and Danielson; Compher has looked better on the wing at times)
Soderblom-UFA-Mazur
Tarasenko and Berggren out, and a UFA 4th line center signed almost entirely for PK ability. Seems unlikely the answer there is Motte or Smith at this point.
You forgot to add in all the future considerations in there!
Almost 11 million for bottom 6 centers, that’s team building
I fuckin hate Tarasenko for another year, dude doesn’t even act like he’s trying
This is not accounting for Tank, Copp and Compher accidentally locking themselves in the equipment room for a month thus voiding their contracts.
pleasepleaseplease
tara and comp can go if you ask me….
Weren’t the playing their best when Kasper was on the first line and Copper 2C? And Ras is set up as the 3rd/4th line center for the next few years. I don’t think Yzerman is going to add anyone else with a lot of term. I felt Copper and JT’s contracts were set up to expire when Kasper and Danielson were ready to take their center spots.
If terasenko is on this team next year someone needs to lose their job. What he has done this season to the Red Wings is tantamount to welfare fraud
I would like to see Danielson on one of the top two lines. Unless it’s Marner.
The contract amounts look so much more reasonable with the cap going up as it is for the first time in 4 seasons. Wings will have a really good amount to spend this Summer.
xxx-Larkin-Raymond
DeBrincat-Kasper-Kane
xxx-Copp-Danielson
Rasmussen-Compher-Mazur
Edvinsson-Seider
xxx-ASP
Chiarot-Johansson
Mrazek
Talbot
Cossa?
More questions, but if we get Mazur, Danielson, and ASP on the team next season, I’ll continue to feel good about the direction of the club
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Both copp and compher have played wing about as often as they have played c for us, theres really no reason to expect one has to center the 4th line…
It was always the hope the kasper would be 2c for this team and copp and compher in general were plugs for this team in a rebuild. This isn’t really a problem and is more the ideal result but none of us can speak to exactly how they want to field the lineup next year. There are way too many variables at this point in time.
When is danielson projecting to arrive? And is he going to play center?
Man that’s a bad roster.
If Kane departs, Debrincat needs to be up on the top line. He’s our best forward and a deadly 1st line and weak 2nd line is better than 2 mid lines. Hopefully we can get a real top 6 player to play on the second line in the off season.
You simply cannot have a $5+ million dollar guy centering your 4th line
Kasper is now our #2 C. I would bet my mortgage that Tarasenko is bought out. He is everything Yzerman hates in prospects, and it would save the team money.
Danielson, Lombardi and Mazur are going to be fighting for spots. My guess is Mazur and Lombardi find spots, and Danielson brought up like Kasper and eventually be 3C, pushing Copp down to a much more favorable 4C spot.
My #1 is Marner. He would be perfect for Kane’s role with Debrincat and Kasper. Boeser is also a solid target. Also need a top D man, Seider, Edvinsson, ASP, and Johansson are all set for next year, not including Buium and Wallinder fighting for a spot too
Who cares? It doesn’t fit the timeline of building through the draft. /s
Those Copp and Compher contracts are awful. Tarasenkos has aged like milk too
Is Elmer not under contract?
Some horrendous FA deals from Stevie jfc
15 million spent on 3 wastes of space
Elmer – Lark – Razor //
Cat – Kasper – Danielson //
Compher – Copp – Rass //
I’m very okay with that top 9. If we can build a 4th line with a little more bite and snarl. I’d say that’s a pretty competitive forward unit. Assuming Kasper, Elmer and Danielson take another step forward.
Spend the money on a stop gap RHD that can play 2nd/3rd pairing while we figure out ASP
Edvinsson – Seider
Aljo – UFA RHD
Chairot – ASP
A strong defensive unit. Assuming we can grab a RHD some how/some way.
Tarasenko? He gone at the end of this year
Inshallah that 3rd line is 50% incorrect
We better be adding a C2
I’m afraid they may even get worse…
Kasper will be our 2C. I think Danielson will make the jump at some point next year to 3C or 2/3 line Winger. Copp and Compher will continue to float between 3C and Wing. Tarasenko needs to be traded (without us getting rid of a good draft pick) or bought out. DeBrincat needs to be cementd into the 1st line with Larkin and Raymond unless we could get a true superstar LW
Picking 10th again next year in style!
Compher, Tarasenko, Rasmussen need to be off the team.
Danielson will make the team out of camp.
My guess for lines next season:
Mazur – Larkin – Raymond
DeBrincat – Kasper – Kane
Compher – Copp – Tarasenko
??? – Rasmussen – Soderblom
I think ideally we move on from Tarasenko and Compher this off-season, but if we can’t (Compher especially could be hard to move) that’s making the most of what we have / what we’re willing to do. If Buchelnikov comes over that changes things a lot though.
The LW1 has been a glaring hole all season minus the short time Kasper was up there. Kasper has been good with Cat on the second line, so they really need to find someone who can keep up with Ray and Larks.
Soda (or free agent idk) – Larkin – Raymond
Mazur – Kasper – DeBrincat
Ras – Copp – comp her
Watson – Lombardi – Berggren
Buy out Tarasenko or trade him for nothing. I don’t hate this lineup, but no matter what the defense needs *way* more work. I think our goalies are fine.
I did not realize Copp and Compher are making that much. Wtf.
If we can resign kaner, I would really like us to go get a guy who can play with larks and razor. No offense to ras or soda they aren’t top line guys. They just look out of place when slotted there.
Maybe get elhers for 3-4 years? He’s a proven top 6 guy. Can skate with the top line would fit well with there play style.
But Larkin and Raymond have to have someone who can keep up with them next year. And I don’t see anyone in the org who can other than Kasper but the cat Kasper Kane line I wouldn’t break up.
I’d expect to see something more like this:
Kasper-Larkin-Raymond
Debrincat-Copp-UFA (or Kane)
Rasmussen-Compher-Danielson (or switch around Compher and Danielson; Compher has looked better on the wing at times)
Soderblom-UFA-Mazur
Tarasenko and Berggren out, and a UFA 4th line center signed almost entirely for PK ability. Seems unlikely the answer there is Motte or Smith at this point.
You forgot to add in all the future considerations in there!
Almost 11 million for bottom 6 centers, that’s team building
I fuckin hate Tarasenko for another year, dude doesn’t even act like he’s trying
This is not accounting for Tank, Copp and Compher accidentally locking themselves in the equipment room for a month thus voiding their contracts.
pleasepleaseplease
tara and comp can go if you ask me….
Weren’t the playing their best when Kasper was on the first line and Copper 2C? And Ras is set up as the 3rd/4th line center for the next few years. I don’t think Yzerman is going to add anyone else with a lot of term. I felt Copper and JT’s contracts were set up to expire when Kasper and Danielson were ready to take their center spots.
If terasenko is on this team next year someone needs to lose their job. What he has done this season to the Red Wings is tantamount to welfare fraud
I would like to see Danielson on one of the top two lines. Unless it’s Marner.
The contract amounts look so much more reasonable with the cap going up as it is for the first time in 4 seasons. Wings will have a really good amount to spend this Summer.
xxx-Larkin-Raymond
DeBrincat-Kasper-Kane
xxx-Copp-Danielson
Rasmussen-Compher-Mazur
Edvinsson-Seider
xxx-ASP
Chiarot-Johansson
Mrazek
Talbot
Cossa?
More questions, but if we get Mazur, Danielson, and ASP on the team next season, I’ll continue to feel good about the direction of the club