The team has a hell of a lot more problems that one offseason won’t fix. Russo assumed the secondary scoring was the biggest thing, but maybe other players that would have done that scoffed at the team’s offer. He decided instead to say, “Hmm…you know, our PK is ALSO pretty fucking garbage. I might be able to do a little bit to help that.”
It’s hard to be excited when you’re banking on players that should be on the 4th line bringing up your scoring.
Not sure what he expected them to do this offseason. You’re not going to get caviar with a potato chip budget.
If he thinks there was someone available that fit the bill for the price the Wild was able to pay – I’d like to see names. Until then, he can STFU. (He’s becoming as annoying as the rest of the KFAN morons.)
if Marco Rossi and Hartman can each pot 25 or more goals this season we’ll be fine
Well, Billy G have the game away when he said a few weeks ago that this entire season is predicted on guys having “better years” out whatever the quote was. Here’s the problem, giving Freddy, Hartman, Johansen, and the likes, contracts based on outlier years and expecting them to play that way all the time is idiotic. The team and those players came back to reality and their actual playing capabilities. It will be another year of abysmal hockey with that and this signing as the adjustments.
The answer is in the building: LIAM OHGREN
It’s fucking hilarious to me that r/hockey calls him a homer…
in what way do you read this to mean he’s not enthusiastic lol. he’s just stating facts.
I looked this up again just to be sure, but the Wild would have needed to score 18 more goals and stop 24 more goals all season to be top 10 instead of 20th-21st.
I believe it is reasonable to assume a lot of the lack of depth scoring wasn’t just from the Surgeons, Gaudreaus and the Folignos, but also Shaw, Beckman, Letteris, Lucchinis, Duhaimes, etc that really did not at all at replacing them. When the top 5 players get 40-70, but the rest only managed around 10-20 points, well, no shit it isn’t an easy thing to solve.
The team also went from like 6th-7th in GA one year to 20th, so that was probably one main thing informing the decision. If all the players stay healthy, and the scoring against is STILL shit, that says it is goaltending point blank.
The Wild finished bottom third in goals allowed so someone to take scoring pressure off our top players would be welcomed? Like doesn’t that stat support the move he’s subtly criticizing?
I don’t think a lot of what Russo has been saying lately makes sense. I never understood why he was so confident that they were going to sign a top 6 winger to a 1 year deal, like there’s just this surplus of good top 6 wingers willing to sign a deal like that?
He’s been bitching about how they are going to work these prospects into the line up but now he’s criticizing them for leaving a top 6 spot open for someone like Ohgren to take? A young player that looked impressive at the end of last year and he doesn’t even mention?
This team played Jacob Lucchini and Vinni Laterri for over 40 games last season, and traded away UFA’s in Dewar and Duhaime at the deadline but he’s throwing shade at the idea of signing another bottom 6 forward like we just have some surplus of good players in the bottom 6? Whatever you think about the contract for Trenin itself, the player fills a pretty obvious need right now.
Admittedly, I don’t follow as closely as I used to. I mostly just listen to Russos podcasts and interviews. That said, this team feels so much like the team just before the 2010s doldrums. Probably losing a star, kids that are panning out to good 2nd liners, signing 3rd liners when we need scoring, hoping aging vets pick back up…
I honestly hope I’m wrong, but I’m far more pessimistic about this team doing anything better than a first round exit than I was a year ago. The proliferation of NTC/NMC is not helping either. Fletch traded a 2nd like candy. BG hands out NTC/NMC like candy. Both handcuff the org.
I would love for someone to explain the path to a cup for this team, because I just don’t see it.
Look at the last two post seasons the Wild made. They got ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED when they took penalties. Shoring up the PK should absolutely be priority #1. You can’t win in the playoffs if you can’t keep the puck out of your net on the PK.
Foligno’s potential is not discussed enough. His last 2 seasons were dismal but I always refer back to 21-22 when we had like 8-10 guys all having career seasons
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The team has a hell of a lot more problems that one offseason won’t fix. Russo assumed the secondary scoring was the biggest thing, but maybe other players that would have done that scoffed at the team’s offer. He decided instead to say, “Hmm…you know, our PK is ALSO pretty fucking garbage. I might be able to do a little bit to help that.”
It’s hard to be excited when you’re banking on players that should be on the 4th line bringing up your scoring.
Not sure what he expected them to do this offseason. You’re not going to get caviar with a potato chip budget.
If he thinks there was someone available that fit the bill for the price the Wild was able to pay – I’d like to see names. Until then, he can STFU. (He’s becoming as annoying as the rest of the KFAN morons.)
if Marco Rossi and Hartman can each pot 25 or more goals this season we’ll be fine
Well, Billy G have the game away when he said a few weeks ago that this entire season is predicted on guys having “better years” out whatever the quote was. Here’s the problem, giving Freddy, Hartman, Johansen, and the likes, contracts based on outlier years and expecting them to play that way all the time is idiotic. The team and those players came back to reality and their actual playing capabilities. It will be another year of abysmal hockey with that and this signing as the adjustments.
The answer is in the building: LIAM OHGREN
It’s fucking hilarious to me that r/hockey calls him a homer…
in what way do you read this to mean he’s not enthusiastic lol. he’s just stating facts.
I looked this up again just to be sure, but the Wild would have needed to score 18 more goals and stop 24 more goals all season to be top 10 instead of 20th-21st.
I believe it is reasonable to assume a lot of the lack of depth scoring wasn’t just from the Surgeons, Gaudreaus and the Folignos, but also Shaw, Beckman, Letteris, Lucchinis, Duhaimes, etc that really did not at all at replacing them. When the top 5 players get 40-70, but the rest only managed around 10-20 points, well, no shit it isn’t an easy thing to solve.
The team also went from like 6th-7th in GA one year to 20th, so that was probably one main thing informing the decision. If all the players stay healthy, and the scoring against is STILL shit, that says it is goaltending point blank.
The Wild finished bottom third in goals allowed so someone to take scoring pressure off our top players would be welcomed? Like doesn’t that stat support the move he’s subtly criticizing?
I don’t think a lot of what Russo has been saying lately makes sense. I never understood why he was so confident that they were going to sign a top 6 winger to a 1 year deal, like there’s just this surplus of good top 6 wingers willing to sign a deal like that?
He’s been bitching about how they are going to work these prospects into the line up but now he’s criticizing them for leaving a top 6 spot open for someone like Ohgren to take? A young player that looked impressive at the end of last year and he doesn’t even mention?
This team played Jacob Lucchini and Vinni Laterri for over 40 games last season, and traded away UFA’s in Dewar and Duhaime at the deadline but he’s throwing shade at the idea of signing another bottom 6 forward like we just have some surplus of good players in the bottom 6? Whatever you think about the contract for Trenin itself, the player fills a pretty obvious need right now.
Admittedly, I don’t follow as closely as I used to. I mostly just listen to Russos podcasts and interviews. That said, this team feels so much like the team just before the 2010s doldrums. Probably losing a star, kids that are panning out to good 2nd liners, signing 3rd liners when we need scoring, hoping aging vets pick back up…
I honestly hope I’m wrong, but I’m far more pessimistic about this team doing anything better than a first round exit than I was a year ago. The proliferation of NTC/NMC is not helping either. Fletch traded a 2nd like candy. BG hands out NTC/NMC like candy. Both handcuff the org.
I would love for someone to explain the path to a cup for this team, because I just don’t see it.
Look at the last two post seasons the Wild made. They got ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED when they took penalties. Shoring up the PK should absolutely be priority #1. You can’t win in the playoffs if you can’t keep the puck out of your net on the PK.
Foligno’s potential is not discussed enough. His last 2 seasons were dismal but I always refer back to 21-22 when we had like 8-10 guys all having career seasons