Askarov requested a trade, should we go after him?
August 19, 2024
Since they extended Saros, looks like he wants to get a shot elsewhere.
Is this a trade we should/could pursue and what would it cost?
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No
No, we don’t need to go after anyone right now. 2 years from now we go after a solid high scoring free agent. Right now we develop
No. Not with Fowler coming down the pipe.
No. Continue to be hopeful on Fowler and keep the assets that NSH would want in return. Hughes has done a tremendous job staying patient and building this team properly and should stay the course.
The part where he won’t report to the AHL makes this spicy. Might lower the asking price as the Preds might fear he just ignores his contract and goes to Russia.
I hard disagree with the no’s. Of course this all depends on the asking price but his value is at an all time low since Nashville has no leverage.
If he comes cheap you absolutely take him and run Askarov/Monty for the season. I also think it’d be nice for Demidov to have a Russian teammate to help him integrate with North America.
Fowler isn’t really a reason not to pursue this, he’s still easily 3 years away from the NHL.
Yes we should! I mean it all depends on the price, but we have more D-men than spots on the blue line for the upcoming season. At his age, he fits perfectly with our core, and he’s projected to be elite. We have the assets, we need to take some swings.
Imho it’s best we avoid players who publicize problems with their teams.
Askarov has a very high ceiling.
Should we go after him? It depends on the cost. If Nashville is expecting us (or whatever team is interested) to pay for “what Askarov could be”, then absolutely we do not go after him.
If the fact he has requested a trade and is threatening to stay in Russia drives his cost down, then we absolutely should be looking into it. I know we have Fowler in the pipeline, but goalies are never a guarantee.
Remember how high the fanbase was on Primeau? And now he’s a backup/fringe starter.
If the cost is Primeau and one of our depth defencemen, I would do it. Askarov’s ceiling is huge. Even if Fowler ends up being better, Askarov could still be traded down the road anyway.
Monty/Askarov is a much better tandem for the current period and lets us develop Fowler properly for the next few years.
Askarov is 22 so it’s not like he is in his prime and looking to get a huge payday.
What would we realistically offer?
Absolutely. We have insane prospect depth to make a move like this. He and Monty can run 1a/b until he’s ready to be the guy. His prime would perfectly align with our competitive window
It appears Nashville will have very little leverage in any trade discussion which will lower his trade value significantly. It is also evident that Askarov will demand a guarantee of NHL employment. So, low cost but at the expense of either Primeau or Montembeault unless there is another year of a 3 goalie rotation with a trade at the deadline. Not really a good idea
If he’s cheap enough to get, a team in desperate need to stock the goaltending cabinet will pay more than we should.
Absolutely, if the price is right. We need all the help we can get between the pipes, and his ceiling right now is very high.
No. I don’t want to shake up our prospect pool and I believe in what we have in Monty, Primeau or Fowler.
Yes we can probably get him for Dvorak 1 for 1
It depends on the asking price
But we should absolutely check in if we haven’t already
They should inquire thats for sure. Depends on the price. Mailloux and Primeau vs Askarov who says no?
If on the cheap yes always good to have depth but the Fowler train is coming and our two guys are competitive. Montembault has surprises hiding might become a monster!!!!!
Not sure what the value of Primeau, Harris/Barron and FLA 1st on the trade market but they aren’t pieces I would feel angry to lose.
22yo supposedly elite goalie. One more checkmark on our rebuild
I would be okay with Struble and Dobes too if they prefer. Would it be enough I don’t know it’s KH job
I mean Fowler won’t be ready probably for another 3-4 years while Askarov is NHL ready or needs maybe 1 more year. Plus goalies are voodoo who knows if Fowler is gonna be able to do well at the nhl level. If you can get a solid goalie prospect like askarov who has shown capability at pro level, why not go after him as long as the asking price isn’t too high. I trust Hughes more than me but I think people here are quite dismissive of Askarov. This is coming from someone who lives in Milwaukee and has seen Askarov play many times, he’s really talented
No idea what Askarov is worth, if we could get him for one of our excess D and a non-1st round pick, then I’d do it for sure.
Struble/Harris/Barron + CGY/FLA 1st
or
Mailloux + 3rd (Mailloux is younger than the other 3, shoots R, and has a higher ceiling imo)
If Nashville asks for more I hang up the phone.
It depends.
Askarov is a blue chip goalie prospect indeed.
But the goalie market is special because the demand is always thin and the offer abundant.
It is why teams don’t draft goalie in the 1st round anymore and go look at Ullmark return on the trade market.
I would trade Primeau + Harris for him. Maybe a 2nd RD pick? But prospects like Mailloux are a no go for a goalie.
The first tier of goalies, they are pretty much untouchables, but past that, there is always a plethora of goaltender in the 2nd tier and 3rd tier available for peanuts.
If we do I think we have to trade Primeau. I think it was clear that the 3 way situation cost us games last year. Monty gets better the more he plays
Yes. Yes we should.
Absolutely
If he’s that good, there are a lot of teams that would be in on him. So I can’t imagine the price tag will be ideal.
I loooove Askarov. Seen him play in the AHL a few times. Dude is a maniac. Ice in his veins. The type of goalie I’ve always had a soft spot for. He takes chances, handles the puck well and he’s super talented.
One of the x factors in Askarov trade talks is the reports that him and Trotz had ‘conflicting personalities’.
I’d want the Habs to do their homework and look into getting him, I’m not sure I’d want the Habs paying the price to get him.
I would say yes definitely pick him up. He’s gonna go relatively cheap so there should be no harm trying to pick him up. After last years performance I don’t have a lot of hope in Primeau and Monty is just kinda hitting his stride. So if we could grab someone like Askarov it’s definitely a win. That way we can also develop fowler more and not rush him. At most for a deal it probably be a none first round pick and we could throw in one of our plethora of dmen.
The cost is probably not even that crazy too, like I keep seeing Fowler thrown in offers, we probably wouldn’t even have to throw in Fowler.
He’s one of the best goalie prospects, and he’s essentially ready for the NHL. If the price is right, it makes a lot of sense to try to acquire Askarov. While I haven’t closed the book on Primeau by any stretch, and am pretty high on Fowler being an NHL-quality goalie in five-ish years, there’s really no such thing as having too many goalies in the system.
Would you give up Fowler and a mid-round pick?
You can say what you want about goalies but Askarov is elite. Unless the price is ridiculous he’s well worth a swing.
Could we then say we casually built the TBL without anyone noticing?
The real question is what does Nashville want for him?
They have no cap space so they cant really take back other than a guy on a rookie deal.
So draft picks?
Are we willing to part with future first round picks? I am not willing to give up next years first (easy top ten pick, maybe top 5, could be first overall)
We already have fowler. Is askarov an upgrade? No one here knows
No. We will need to sacrifice a top defence prospect for something we don’t really need.
Yeah… then go after some young defensemen too!
Why the heck would we need a goalie
I would totally pursue this if im montreal. no brainer. Primeau can be dealt away, and you have Monty in Tandem. You also have Fowler coming up so the cupboard remains stocked. If they want Monty back the other way, id consider it as part of a deal.
There’s no point guys lol. It’s not happening.
He’s my favorite goalie in the league right now just cause of his aggressive style (and I think a strong team strategy could be formulated around that aspect of his game), so I’d be in favor of it on that principle.
On the cons side, I think Monty is a solid goalie who has been growing his game with the rest of the core. It would feel shitty to have to relegate him to backup or 1B.
But if the cost to acquire Askarov is within the realm of reason, I’d pull the trigger on that deal. The question there is: what does Nashville want from our roster? They are in a win-now mode since Trotz took over, and just acquired the aging Stamkos and Marchessault. So they would probably be looking to target players like Savard or Armia as a return; veterans who have experience playing a role during a cup run. Can we afford to move one of those veterans? Our pool of experienced players is getting a little thin and we are among the youngest rosters in the league already.
I would be most interested in acquiring him if we could get him for picks, but I don’t see that working for Nashville unless the situation with the player has deteriorated so much that they just need to ship him out of town.
Depends on the price, but yeah I’d be all on him. He’s by far the most promising goalie prospect since Shesterkin and Vasilevsky, but he’s still ultimately unproven in the NHL. And goalies are also absolute voodoo.
I guess it’ll all depend on how Hughes and Gorton see our goaltending rn. Primeau and Montembault are pretty good but ultimately probably not vezina caliber goalies.
The cost to acquire is the biggest factor here. Nashville reportedly wants a ransom for him. With other needs upfront spending valuable trade assets like a 1rd pick and higher ceiling d-men should be avoided.
Yes Montreal have top 3 goalie staff in the league! He will develop very well there!
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No
No, we don’t need to go after anyone right now. 2 years from now we go after a solid high scoring free agent. Right now we develop
No. Not with Fowler coming down the pipe.
No. Continue to be hopeful on Fowler and keep the assets that NSH would want in return. Hughes has done a tremendous job staying patient and building this team properly and should stay the course.
The part where he won’t report to the AHL makes this spicy. Might lower the asking price as the Preds might fear he just ignores his contract and goes to Russia.
I hard disagree with the no’s. Of course this all depends on the asking price but his value is at an all time low since Nashville has no leverage.
If he comes cheap you absolutely take him and run Askarov/Monty for the season. I also think it’d be nice for Demidov to have a Russian teammate to help him integrate with North America.
Fowler isn’t really a reason not to pursue this, he’s still easily 3 years away from the NHL.
Yes we should! I mean it all depends on the price, but we have more D-men than spots on the blue line for the upcoming season. At his age, he fits perfectly with our core, and he’s projected to be elite. We have the assets, we need to take some swings.
Imho it’s best we avoid players who publicize problems with their teams.
Askarov has a very high ceiling.
Should we go after him? It depends on the cost. If Nashville is expecting us (or whatever team is interested) to pay for “what Askarov could be”, then absolutely we do not go after him.
If the fact he has requested a trade and is threatening to stay in Russia drives his cost down, then we absolutely should be looking into it. I know we have Fowler in the pipeline, but goalies are never a guarantee.
Remember how high the fanbase was on Primeau? And now he’s a backup/fringe starter.
If the cost is Primeau and one of our depth defencemen, I would do it.
Askarov’s ceiling is huge. Even if Fowler ends up being better, Askarov could still be traded down the road anyway.
Monty/Askarov is a much better tandem for the current period and lets us develop Fowler properly for the next few years.
Askarov is 22 so it’s not like he is in his prime and looking to get a huge payday.
What would we realistically offer?
Absolutely. We have insane prospect depth to make a move like this. He and Monty can run 1a/b until he’s ready to be the guy. His prime would perfectly align with our competitive window
It appears Nashville will have very little leverage in any trade discussion which will lower his trade value significantly. It is also evident that Askarov will demand a guarantee of NHL employment. So, low cost but at the expense of either Primeau or Montembeault unless there is another year of a 3 goalie rotation with a trade at the deadline. Not really a good idea
If he’s cheap enough to get, a team in desperate need to stock the goaltending cabinet will pay more than we should.
Absolutely, if the price is right. We need all the help we can get between the pipes, and his ceiling right now is very high.
No. I don’t want to shake up our prospect pool and I believe in what we have in Monty, Primeau or Fowler.
Yes we can probably get him for Dvorak 1 for 1
It depends on the asking price
But we should absolutely check in if we haven’t already
They should inquire thats for sure. Depends on the price. Mailloux and Primeau vs Askarov who says no?
If on the cheap yes always good to have depth but the Fowler train is coming and our two guys are competitive. Montembault has surprises hiding might become a monster!!!!!
Not sure what the value of Primeau, Harris/Barron and FLA 1st on the trade market but they aren’t pieces I would feel angry to lose.
22yo supposedly elite goalie. One more checkmark on our rebuild
I would be okay with Struble and Dobes too if they prefer. Would it be enough I don’t know it’s KH job
I mean Fowler won’t be ready probably for another 3-4 years while Askarov is NHL ready or needs maybe 1 more year. Plus goalies are voodoo who knows if Fowler is gonna be able to do well at the nhl level. If you can get a solid goalie prospect like askarov who has shown capability at pro level, why not go after him as long as the asking price isn’t too high. I trust Hughes more than me but I think people here are quite dismissive of Askarov. This is coming from someone who lives in Milwaukee and has seen Askarov play many times, he’s really talented
No idea what Askarov is worth, if we could get him for one of our excess D and a non-1st round pick, then I’d do it for sure.
Struble/Harris/Barron + CGY/FLA 1st
or
Mailloux + 3rd (Mailloux is younger than the other 3, shoots R, and has a higher ceiling imo)
If Nashville asks for more I hang up the phone.
It depends.
Askarov is a blue chip goalie prospect indeed.
But the goalie market is special because the demand is always thin and the offer abundant.
It is why teams don’t draft goalie in the 1st round anymore and go look at Ullmark return on the trade market.
I would trade Primeau + Harris for him. Maybe a 2nd RD pick? But prospects like Mailloux are a no go for a goalie.
The first tier of goalies, they are pretty much untouchables, but past that, there is always a plethora of goaltender in the 2nd tier and 3rd tier available for peanuts.
If we do I think we have to trade Primeau. I think it was clear that the 3 way situation cost us games last year. Monty gets better the more he plays
Yes. Yes we should.
Absolutely
If he’s that good, there are a lot of teams that would be in on him. So I can’t imagine the price tag will be ideal.
I loooove Askarov. Seen him play in the AHL a few times. Dude is a maniac. Ice in his veins. The type of goalie I’ve always had a soft spot for. He takes chances, handles the puck well and he’s super talented.
One of the x factors in Askarov trade talks is the reports that him and Trotz had ‘conflicting personalities’.
I’d want the Habs to do their homework and look into getting him, I’m not sure I’d want the Habs paying the price to get him.
I would say yes definitely pick him up. He’s gonna go relatively cheap so there should be no harm trying to pick him up. After last years performance I don’t have a lot of hope in Primeau and Monty is just kinda hitting his stride. So if we could grab someone like Askarov it’s definitely a win. That way we can also develop fowler more and not rush him. At most for a deal it probably be a none first round pick and we could throw in one of our plethora of dmen.
The cost is probably not even that crazy too, like I keep seeing Fowler thrown in offers, we probably wouldn’t even have to throw in Fowler.
He’s one of the best goalie prospects, and he’s essentially ready for the NHL. If the price is right, it makes a lot of sense to try to acquire Askarov. While I haven’t closed the book on Primeau by any stretch, and am pretty high on Fowler being an NHL-quality goalie in five-ish years, there’s really no such thing as having too many goalies in the system.
Would you give up Fowler and a mid-round pick?
You can say what you want about goalies but Askarov is elite. Unless the price is ridiculous he’s well worth a swing.
Could we then say we casually built the TBL without anyone noticing?
The real question is what does Nashville want for him?
They have no cap space so they cant really take back other than a guy on a rookie deal.
So draft picks?
Are we willing to part with future first round picks? I am not willing to give up next years first (easy top ten pick, maybe top 5, could be first overall)
We already have fowler. Is askarov an upgrade? No one here knows
No. We will need to sacrifice a top defence prospect for something we don’t really need.
Yeah… then go after some young defensemen too!
Why the heck would we need a goalie
I would totally pursue this if im montreal. no brainer. Primeau can be dealt away, and you have Monty in Tandem. You also have Fowler coming up so the cupboard remains stocked. If they want Monty back the other way, id consider it as part of a deal.
There’s no point guys lol. It’s not happening.
He’s my favorite goalie in the league right now just cause of his aggressive style (and I think a strong team strategy could be formulated around that aspect of his game), so I’d be in favor of it on that principle.
On the cons side, I think Monty is a solid goalie who has been growing his game with the rest of the core. It would feel shitty to have to relegate him to backup or 1B.
But if the cost to acquire Askarov is within the realm of reason, I’d pull the trigger on that deal. The question there is: what does Nashville want from our roster? They are in a win-now mode since Trotz took over, and just acquired the aging Stamkos and Marchessault. So they would probably be looking to target players like Savard or Armia as a return; veterans who have experience playing a role during a cup run. Can we afford to move one of those veterans? Our pool of experienced players is getting a little thin and we are among the youngest rosters in the league already.
I would be most interested in acquiring him if we could get him for picks, but I don’t see that working for Nashville unless the situation with the player has deteriorated so much that they just need to ship him out of town.
Depends on the price, but yeah I’d be all on him. He’s by far the most promising goalie prospect since Shesterkin and Vasilevsky, but he’s still ultimately unproven in the NHL. And goalies are also absolute voodoo.
I guess it’ll all depend on how Hughes and Gorton see our goaltending rn. Primeau and Montembault are pretty good but ultimately probably not vezina caliber goalies.
The cost to acquire is the biggest factor here. Nashville reportedly wants a ransom for him. With other needs upfront spending valuable trade assets like a 1rd pick and higher ceiling d-men should be avoided.
Yes Montreal have top 3 goalie staff in the league! He will develop very well there!
We are 100% not going to trade for a goalie!