[NFL on CBS] “It doesn’t look mechanical, it looks like a confidence issue”. Matt Ryan, Bill Cowher and Nate Burleston discuss what is wrong with Trevor Lawrence and they would fix it.
September 30, 2024
[NFL on CBS] “It doesn’t look mechanical, it looks like a confidence issue”. Matt Ryan, Bill Cowher and Nate Burleston discuss what is wrong with Trevor Lawrence and they would fix it.
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He’s 110% seeing ghosts out there. He doesn’t look comfortable in the pocket whatsoever and it’s accelerating every other part of his game to severe detriment, from his accuracy to his processing. It probably also doesn’t help the coaching staff ostensibly spent all offseason detailing what they were going to do to him and his loved ones if he didn’t stop turning the ball over.
Right now, he’s completely broken and we’re losing games because of it. Place the blame wherever you think it needs to go but this is an almost unassailable fact. What remains to be seen is if Shad is capable of finding someone to salvage Trevor. Track record says no but I’m open to being surprised.
It feels like something g happened to Doug and Trevor’s relationship… feels like there is a lot of tension and it’s probably from the losing streak but I can’t help but think Doug would rather toss Trevor if he gets to keep his staff which is wild and it’s alienating Trevor and making the whole vibe weird around the team…
there have been a ton of strange personnel choices all year and there just no cohesion…
Just look at the final roster cuts, Hines-Allen and walker are the only 2 DE we have on the damn roster… the defense feels like almost everyone is playing out of position and the right guard can barely move anymore while we have a young guy who was violent in the preseason riding the bench…
I don’t even remember what I was talking about now I’m just sad and angry
I remember when Minshew Mania first took off, he had crazy good pocket presence, like the one play where he dodged about four Broncos defenders and threw a TD is still one of my favorite Jags moments. By the end of his time here, he was tap dancing in the pocket and couldn’t avoid shit. Feels like we’re doing the same thing again to Tlaw. Draft 20 Olinemen throughout the next 3 drafts lol
Doug Pederson KILLS Quarterbacks
It’s sad we’d probably be 3-1 with Andy Dalton starting at QB this season….
It looks like a he sucks problem to me.
This team and coaching staff has broken Trevor. By refusing to put a decent offensive line in front of him, he’s seeing ghosts now, and starting to look more like David Carr every week. And I fully believe there is a rift between Trevor and Doug, and Shad needs to take the side of the QB he’s invested so heavily in, and get him a competent GM to properly build around him, and a component coaching staff to hopefully salvage him before it’s too late, if it’s not too late already. He may or may not be a “generational talent,” but how they’ve handled him this far is downright malpractice.
Anyone that knows the game knows this, nothing has changed in his play other than the belief in himself. That can be fixed but that requires mature coaching which we do not have. If the regime isn’t changed I hope we trade him somewhere that he can actually succeed and be out in a position to succeed.
I preferred the Trevor that took risks and threw interceptions, because at least that Trevor knew how to win games.
It’s a talent issue
His avoidance to step up in the pocket and instead spin in a circle seems like he doesn’t have confidence in the oline at all. I feel like he’s being coached to do that spin because the oline is that inconsistent.
You can say the coaching and stuff broke Trevor Lawrence or whatever and doug needs to be fired.
While that’s 100% true Trevor is still broken and I don’t think you can get a new coach and all of sudden Trevor is good again.
He sails wide open passes far to often, terrible balanced throws, the stupid spin thing he does etc
I genuinely think he’s cooked
Feels like post Bocelli/Leon, the team refuses to provide quality protection for the qb. Could be this broke gabbard, leftwich, bortles and now tlaw.
No shade or anything cause I’m new to this NFL thing but it’s certainly interesting looking at posts from when he was drafted to what the conversations are now. I still think he could be good.
He’s an average QB. That’s the answer.
I wish we could rewind to the first half of the Bengals game last year. Trevor was having a pretty damn good season, building off of a strong finish in 2022. His injuries just derailed that momentum.
It’s clearly in there, he’s just not sharp for whatever reason (anxious about turnovers, discomfort in the pocket after his injuries, not trusting the play calling and pressing because of it, etc.).
I said yesterday this one wasn’t on Trevor, and that was incorrect. It was partially on him. The miss to Kirk is just inexcusable. You hit that, and we likely win the game.
However, in spite of his misses, we had the lead at 20-17 and were in a great position to win.
The play calling after the big Tank run was absolutely baffling and looked like they were *trying* to give it away. Take the 3, you’re up 23-17, and you force Houston’s hand. Once we get the ball back with a few minutes left, you RUN THE BALL. We averaged 6.6 YPC. Chew clock, make them burn timeouts. Instead, we throw it, stop the clock to preserve their timeouts, then play to hold them to 3.
I can imagine being paid 250m put a lot of pressure on his shoulders as a 24 year old to be perfect and a 250m qb. Probably didn’t help
My biggest thing with this is the amount of money that has been committed to a player with this many questions. I like Trevor and I hope it works out but when you pay someone that kind of money you have be absolutely positive that they can get it done.
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He’s 110% seeing ghosts out there. He doesn’t look comfortable in the pocket whatsoever and it’s accelerating every other part of his game to severe detriment, from his accuracy to his processing. It probably also doesn’t help the coaching staff ostensibly spent all offseason detailing what they were going to do to him and his loved ones if he didn’t stop turning the ball over.
Right now, he’s completely broken and we’re losing games because of it. Place the blame wherever you think it needs to go but this is an almost unassailable fact. What remains to be seen is if Shad is capable of finding someone to salvage Trevor. Track record says no but I’m open to being surprised.
It feels like something g happened to Doug and Trevor’s relationship… feels like there is a lot of tension and it’s probably from the losing streak but I can’t help but think Doug would rather toss Trevor if he gets to keep his staff which is wild and it’s alienating Trevor and making the whole vibe weird around the team…
there have been a ton of strange personnel choices all year and there just no cohesion…
Just look at the final roster cuts, Hines-Allen and walker are the only 2 DE we have on the damn roster… the defense feels like almost everyone is playing out of position and the right guard can barely move anymore while we have a young guy who was violent in the preseason riding the bench…
I don’t even remember what I was talking about now I’m just sad and angry
I remember when Minshew Mania first took off, he had crazy good pocket presence, like the one play where he dodged about four Broncos defenders and threw a TD is still one of my favorite Jags moments. By the end of his time here, he was tap dancing in the pocket and couldn’t avoid shit. Feels like we’re doing the same thing again to Tlaw. Draft 20 Olinemen throughout the next 3 drafts lol
Doug Pederson KILLS Quarterbacks
It’s sad we’d probably be 3-1 with Andy Dalton starting at QB this season….
It looks like a he sucks problem to me.
This team and coaching staff has broken Trevor. By refusing to put a decent offensive line in front of him, he’s seeing ghosts now, and starting to look more like David Carr every week. And I fully believe there is a rift between Trevor and Doug, and Shad needs to take the side of the QB he’s invested so heavily in, and get him a competent GM to properly build around him, and a component coaching staff to hopefully salvage him before it’s too late, if it’s not too late already. He may or may not be a “generational talent,” but how they’ve handled him this far is downright malpractice.
Anyone that knows the game knows this, nothing has changed in his play other than the belief in himself. That can be fixed but that requires mature coaching which we do not have. If the regime isn’t changed I hope we trade him somewhere that he can actually succeed and be out in a position to succeed.
I preferred the Trevor that took risks and threw interceptions, because at least that Trevor knew how to win games.
It’s a talent issue
His avoidance to step up in the pocket and instead spin in a circle seems like he doesn’t have confidence in the oline at all. I feel like he’s being coached to do that spin because the oline is that inconsistent.
You can say the coaching and stuff broke Trevor Lawrence or whatever and doug needs to be fired.
While that’s 100% true Trevor is still broken and I don’t think you can get a new coach and all of sudden Trevor is good again.
He sails wide open passes far to often, terrible balanced throws, the stupid spin thing he does etc
I genuinely think he’s cooked
Feels like post Bocelli/Leon, the team refuses to provide quality protection for the qb. Could be this broke gabbard, leftwich, bortles and now tlaw.
No shade or anything cause I’m new to this NFL thing but it’s certainly interesting looking at posts from when he was drafted to what the conversations are now. I still think he could be good.
He’s an average QB. That’s the answer.
I wish we could rewind to the first half of the Bengals game last year. Trevor was having a pretty damn good season, building off of a strong finish in 2022. His injuries just derailed that momentum.
It’s clearly in there, he’s just not sharp for whatever reason (anxious about turnovers, discomfort in the pocket after his injuries, not trusting the play calling and pressing because of it, etc.).
I said yesterday this one wasn’t on Trevor, and that was incorrect. It was partially on him. The miss to Kirk is just inexcusable. You hit that, and we likely win the game.
However, in spite of his misses, we had the lead at 20-17 and were in a great position to win.
The play calling after the big Tank run was absolutely baffling and looked like they were *trying* to give it away. Take the 3, you’re up 23-17, and you force Houston’s hand. Once we get the ball back with a few minutes left, you RUN THE BALL. We averaged 6.6 YPC. Chew clock, make them burn timeouts. Instead, we throw it, stop the clock to preserve their timeouts, then play to hold them to 3.
I can imagine being paid 250m put a lot of pressure on his shoulders as a 24 year old to be perfect and a 250m qb. Probably didn’t help
My biggest thing with this is the amount of money that has been committed to a player with this many questions. I like Trevor and I hope it works out but when you pay someone that kind of money you have be absolutely positive that they can get it done.
Right now no one can truly say that.