UPDATE: The #RedWings have trimmed their preseason roster to 28
October 6, 2024
UPDATE: The #RedWings have trimmed their preseason roster to 28
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Kasper, Danielson and Mazur to GR
MBN to SHL
This thread is going to be filled with rational, respectful dialogue between peers.
>Kasper
Wack. Ah well. He’ll get a shot this season at some point, surely.
Pain.
Lol
Guess they’re signing Watson.
I was hoping for MBN to GR personally
Oh boy, some takes will be given in this thread
Fuck off Steve
Pretty bullshit the one guy busting his ass in camp gets the door while other guys are coasting.
Oh well “trust the process”
We saw last year how important even one game can be in the standings. With 82 of them, that “one game” could be any of the 82 games. Kasper makes this team better and it’s a shame that it looks like he won’t have the chance to make the team better for 82 games this year.
Kasper by Halloween or Thanksgiving. Not worried about
So is Johansson staying a wing??
Bummed Kasper is going down but he’ll be up eventually with injuries I’m sure
Ready for the downvotes, but they should not have resigned Ras. Obviously Copp is a roadblock in the lineup, too, but 27’s contract and lack of offense is a tough one to me.
Also, did they need Fischer and Motte? No room for the kids.
Only ones I’m a little surprised by are Kasper not making it since Holl was waived, and also MBN could have been exciting in Grand Rapids. I guess I saw this coming though.
Watson will provide an element the team has sorely missed. Also I’m sure Kasper is #1 on the list when injuries come along for our forwards.
Was really hoping waiving Holl was mainly to make room for Kasper but oh well. From the little I saw he should be up in Detroit sooner than later…. Right?
Little upset kasper isn’t staying in nhl… but having a guy like Watson will be great for the 4th line
Saw someone bring it up that there’s a chance this is a paper move for Kasper since the Wings don’t play until Thursday. The paper move part is that they have the flexibility to try to waive someone to GR after everyone else’s rosters are set
Booo on Kasper not making it. He did everything to show that he deserved a spot and Y couldn’t navigate his own log jam to give him the spot that he earned. I have faith that it won’t take long for him to be on the Wings, but I’m disappointed.
I don’t think it’s surprising, but I imagine we’ll see some call-ups shortly into the season.
Unpopular opinion, but the fact that there’s a discussion for how many of our guys are on the bubble of the roster still means there is work to be done to be a playoff contender. Love or Hate Yzerman, he doesn’t rush the decision
I’m guessing paper move. Expect Kasper up for game 1
Will there be a presser? Steve has to answer for his crimes
Kasper will probably be back up after Holl clears waivers
So disappointing, fresh talented young skater who could provide enthusiasm, skill, and energy. Instead here’s another old retread past his prime and his only quality is getting his ass kicked in the one thing you get him for, but he’s from Michigan so it’s okay.
Really annoying
Kinda shocked MBN didn’t get the GR nod. Really wanted him and Danielson to be together for the season. But ASP and him could develop a great bond on the PP over in the SHL so I don’t hate it
I’m holding out hope that moving Kasper down is just administrative/logistical stuff that we wouldn’t understand and he’s back on the roster before opening night
I’m not super upset about Kasper; I think him getting an extended look and maybe even stealing a roster spot later this year is inevitable.
With that being said, this is all the proof anyone needs to say that we are not icing the best possible roster, and young players can’t always force their way on to the team. Maybe there’s moves to be made, or maybe he just got blocked by too many bad contracts that can’t be moved or buried, but it is 100% fair to say Kasper should be on the opening roster by merit of preseason play alone.
Glad to see us sending the right message to the kids: “no matter how good you are, eat shit”
Where is Blashill’s wife???
Mrs. Lalonde is clearly not paying attention.
Bummer. A wings regression this year seems likely in my opinion. Defying the odds as we did last year shouts for a regression to the mean. Unfortunately, Cam Talbot and Jack Campbell are not what we needed and we did nothing to bolster our defense- our greatest off-season need.
Nate Danielson is great. Saw him play for the Portland Winterhawks last year. Awesome hockey IQ. He just knew where to be on the ice with seemingly less effort. Not that he’s nhl ready, but it’ll be awesome when we give him a chance on his 30th birthday.
I so want Soderblom to be good, but I just don’t think he’s gonna make it anymore.
Tell me again how if you earn a spot you’ll be on the team.
I have been watching ASP and hes arguably their best defenseman so far, he’s very crafty and tough to get off the puck
Not gonna lie, the goalie situation… annoys me slightly. I actually wonder if Stevie tried to shop Husso and got nowhere, so no mention of it was ever made in the press.
That said, I just don’t see this team carrying 3 all year, but I also don’t see what would precipitate the change. If one guy gets cold, he’s not gonna be tradable. If one guy gets injured, unless it’s for a very significant part of the season, it might validate the choice in the immediate term, but you’ll just pop back to having the same problem when said guy heals.
I don’t really see the plan here; the team isn’t flush with roster spots, and using one on a third big-club goalie is….. not how I would manage the NHL roster.
I guess we’ll see if anything changes before Monday/ before Thursday.
I think we see Kasper sooner than later, not ready to lose my cool yet.
Im a fan of signing Watson for added grit, but no Kasper? Im not a huge fan of that but we’ll see.
Can someone explain why we are in such a need for an Austin Watson type player over getting our rookies in?
I get that Kasper will get his time this year, but clearly Yzerman doesn’t trust the rookies enough yet. I’m all for letting them develop together in GR, but I can’t see how Watson improves the overall skill of this team minus adding to our goon stats.
I’m not overly hopeful that Kasper is just a poet move. Think more realistic that he ends up down in GR and is called up in November.
Any chance for danielson on Winterhawks or is he set in GR?
I’m starting to lose patience
Boooooo
kasper has the two way contract right? so he can jump up and down for free – i get the move.
This is gonna make Söderblom want to be traded.
It seems folks are upset about Kasper, but I think it’s pretty clear he’s about as close to ready as it gets. Worst case scenario is the 20 year old gets to center the top line in GR knowing he’s the first callup for injury or need, and best is the team continuing to work the roster moves to get him there for opening night.
The reality is still that he’d likely be the 4C for us too, so is that worth it for him? I’m personally torn, it would be great experience and really a strong four line combo to deal with, but it’s also the fewest minutes. Our top line is good, Compher is set centering Kane and Tarasenko, and the Copp line is such a competitive and defensive line that it’s hard to justify breaking them up. That leaves Motte, Veleno and Berggren, and possibly Watson to play Kasper’s wings if he were up. I think we have more offense with him there, but I could think it’s pretty reasonable to just see what they do first before making a move.
Kasper deserved to make it. Ed deserved to make it last year. I bet if he played the whole year with us we finish 1 point better.
I’m bummed about Kasper but I wouldn’t be surprised if we see him a few times during the season
WHEN you transition to the NHL is probably the most important move of a pro players career. I’d imagine this is a confidence thing. Those guys will take the knowledge that they can hang in preseason of the best league in the world, and take that confidence into a more palatable league and do well for another year and solidify that confidence. Gotta remember how young these dudes are
This does suck. We have so many of the same type of players and need some new talent. Do we need a Motte and a fisher? But one thing you know is one of the centres will be out hurt and Kasper will be up.
It’s sad that this teams management thinks half these guys on the main roster are better than Marco Kasper.
Honestly I’m done watching preseason after this year because it doesn’t mean a fucking thing.
The roster will be set before camp, so what’s the fucking point.
They play boring passionless hockey doing everything they can to not stub a toe.
No matter how good a rookie plays they will never earn a spot.
If you can’t see the vision, I can’t help you. Clearly there’s a divide amongst fans on this, but let me clarify something for you. I’ve realized through the years that the rebuild isn’t in the veterans, but the prospects. We are signing veterans to keep pace with growing our actually good players.
Prospects are the real deal, but currently we’ve got those vets in their spots. The writing is on the wall for a lot of vets in contract signings. There will be a lot of movement for prospects in the next 3 years, and they will be NHL ready then.
Speaking of, vets are going to get injured, and I imagine we will see lots of opportunities for prospects. You gotta trust the process imo.
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Kasper, Danielson and Mazur to GR
MBN to SHL
This thread is going to be filled with rational, respectful dialogue between peers.
>Kasper
Wack. Ah well. He’ll get a shot this season at some point, surely.
Pain.
Lol
Guess they’re signing Watson.
I was hoping for MBN to GR personally
Oh boy, some takes will be given in this thread
Fuck off Steve
Pretty bullshit the one guy busting his ass in camp gets the door while other guys are coasting.
Oh well “trust the process”
We saw last year how important even one game can be in the standings. With 82 of them, that “one game” could be any of the 82 games. Kasper makes this team better and it’s a shame that it looks like he won’t have the chance to make the team better for 82 games this year.
Kasper by Halloween or Thanksgiving. Not worried about
So is Johansson staying a wing??
Bummed Kasper is going down but he’ll be up eventually with injuries I’m sure
Ready for the downvotes, but they should not have resigned Ras. Obviously Copp is a roadblock in the lineup, too, but 27’s contract and lack of offense is a tough one to me.
Also, did they need Fischer and Motte? No room for the kids.
Only ones I’m a little surprised by are Kasper not making it since Holl was waived, and also MBN could have been exciting in Grand Rapids. I guess I saw this coming though.
Watson will provide an element the team has sorely missed. Also I’m sure Kasper is #1 on the list when injuries come along for our forwards.
Was really hoping waiving Holl was mainly to make room for Kasper but oh well. From the little I saw he should be up in Detroit sooner than later…. Right?
Little upset kasper isn’t staying in nhl… but having a guy like Watson will be great for the 4th line
Saw someone bring it up that there’s a chance this is a paper move for Kasper since the Wings don’t play until Thursday. The paper move part is that they have the flexibility to try to waive someone to GR after everyone else’s rosters are set
Booo on Kasper not making it. He did everything to show that he deserved a spot and Y couldn’t navigate his own log jam to give him the spot that he earned. I have faith that it won’t take long for him to be on the Wings, but I’m disappointed.
I don’t think it’s surprising, but I imagine we’ll see some call-ups shortly into the season.
Unpopular opinion, but the fact that there’s a discussion for how many of our guys are on the bubble of the roster still means there is work to be done to be a playoff contender. Love or Hate Yzerman, he doesn’t rush the decision
I’m guessing paper move. Expect Kasper up for game 1
Will there be a presser? Steve has to answer for his crimes
Kasper will probably be back up after Holl clears waivers
So disappointing, fresh talented young skater who could provide enthusiasm, skill, and energy. Instead here’s another old retread past his prime and his only quality is getting his ass kicked in the one thing you get him for, but he’s from Michigan so it’s okay.
Really annoying
Kinda shocked MBN didn’t get the GR nod. Really wanted him and Danielson to be together for the season. But ASP and him could develop a great bond on the PP over in the SHL so I don’t hate it
I’m holding out hope that moving Kasper down is just administrative/logistical stuff that we wouldn’t understand and he’s back on the roster before opening night
I’m not super upset about Kasper; I think him getting an extended look and maybe even stealing a roster spot later this year is inevitable.
With that being said, this is all the proof anyone needs to say that we are not icing the best possible roster, and young players can’t always force their way on to the team. Maybe there’s moves to be made, or maybe he just got blocked by too many bad contracts that can’t be moved or buried, but it is 100% fair to say Kasper should be on the opening roster by merit of preseason play alone.
Glad to see us sending the right message to the kids: “no matter how good you are, eat shit”
Where is Blashill’s wife???
Mrs. Lalonde is clearly not paying attention.
Bummer. A wings regression this year seems likely in my opinion. Defying the odds as we did last year shouts for a regression to the mean. Unfortunately, Cam Talbot and Jack Campbell are not what we needed and we did nothing to bolster our defense- our greatest off-season need.
Nate Danielson is great. Saw him play for the Portland Winterhawks last year. Awesome hockey IQ. He just knew where to be on the ice with seemingly less effort. Not that he’s nhl ready, but it’ll be awesome when we give him a chance on his 30th birthday.
I so want Soderblom to be good, but I just don’t think he’s gonna make it anymore.
Tell me again how if you earn a spot you’ll be on the team.
I have been watching ASP and hes arguably their best defenseman so far, he’s very crafty and tough to get off the puck
Not gonna lie, the goalie situation… annoys me slightly. I actually wonder if Stevie tried to shop Husso and got nowhere, so no mention of it was ever made in the press.
That said, I just don’t see this team carrying 3 all year, but I also don’t see what would precipitate the change. If one guy gets cold, he’s not gonna be tradable. If one guy gets injured, unless it’s for a very significant part of the season, it might validate the choice in the immediate term, but you’ll just pop back to having the same problem when said guy heals.
I don’t really see the plan here; the team isn’t flush with roster spots, and using one on a third big-club goalie is….. not how I would manage the NHL roster.
I guess we’ll see if anything changes before Monday/ before Thursday.
I think we see Kasper sooner than later, not ready to lose my cool yet.
Im a fan of signing Watson for added grit, but no Kasper? Im not a huge fan of that but we’ll see.
Can someone explain why we are in such a need for an Austin Watson type player over getting our rookies in?
I get that Kasper will get his time this year, but clearly Yzerman doesn’t trust the rookies enough yet. I’m all for letting them develop together in GR, but I can’t see how Watson improves the overall skill of this team minus adding to our goon stats.
I’m not overly hopeful that Kasper is just a poet move. Think more realistic that he ends up down in GR and is called up in November.
But this tweet offers some logic on why it could be a paper move. https://x.com/connorearegood/status/1843022678527279526?s=46
Any chance for danielson on Winterhawks or is he set in GR?
I’m starting to lose patience
Boooooo
kasper has the two way contract right? so he can jump up and down for free – i get the move.
This is gonna make Söderblom want to be traded.
It seems folks are upset about Kasper, but I think it’s pretty clear he’s about as close to ready as it gets. Worst case scenario is the 20 year old gets to center the top line in GR knowing he’s the first callup for injury or need, and best is the team continuing to work the roster moves to get him there for opening night.
The reality is still that he’d likely be the 4C for us too, so is that worth it for him? I’m personally torn, it would be great experience and really a strong four line combo to deal with, but it’s also the fewest minutes. Our top line is good, Compher is set centering Kane and Tarasenko, and the Copp line is such a competitive and defensive line that it’s hard to justify breaking them up. That leaves Motte, Veleno and Berggren, and possibly Watson to play Kasper’s wings if he were up. I think we have more offense with him there, but I could think it’s pretty reasonable to just see what they do first before making a move.
Kasper deserved to make it. Ed deserved to make it last year. I bet if he played the whole year with us we finish 1 point better.
I’m bummed about Kasper but I wouldn’t be surprised if we see him a few times during the season
WHEN you transition to the NHL is probably the most important move of a pro players career. I’d imagine this is a confidence thing. Those guys will take the knowledge that they can hang in preseason of the best league in the world, and take that confidence into a more palatable league and do well for another year and solidify that confidence. Gotta remember how young these dudes are
This does suck. We have so many of the same type of players and need some new talent. Do we need a Motte and a fisher? But one thing you know is one of the centres will be out hurt and Kasper will be up.
It’s sad that this teams management thinks half these guys on the main roster are better than Marco Kasper.
Honestly I’m done watching preseason after this year because it doesn’t mean a fucking thing.
The roster will be set before camp, so what’s the fucking point.
They play boring passionless hockey doing everything they can to not stub a toe.
No matter how good a rookie plays they will never earn a spot.
If you can’t see the vision, I can’t help you. Clearly there’s a divide amongst fans on this, but let me clarify something for you. I’ve realized through the years that the rebuild isn’t in the veterans, but the prospects. We are signing veterans to keep pace with growing our actually good players.
Prospects are the real deal, but currently we’ve got those vets in their spots. The writing is on the wall for a lot of vets in contract signings. There will be a lot of movement for prospects in the next 3 years, and they will be NHL ready then.
Speaking of, vets are going to get injured, and I imagine we will see lots of opportunities for prospects. You gotta trust the process imo.