Patrick Roy Goes Nuts! Penguins Score Controversial Goal vs New York Islanders
November 6, 2024
Patrick Roy Goes Nuts! Penguins Score Controversial Goal vs New York Islanders
Matt and Mitch discuss the offside non call from last night
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What the most puzzling to me is most of these guys were on the team when the PK was decent. Did lambert undo it that much that it can’t get back? This PK is so bad it is very comcerning
The fact that they ruled that Rakell tipped it in the neutral zone is the key to the ruling. They said that doing that turned it into a delayed offside situation so all Pitt has to do is clear the zone. So then the question becomes did 55's skate come up before 67 entered the zone. They say it did. I disagree but at least that's a better explanation than his skate was up when the puck entered the zone which it clearly wasn't.
So my theory is, he's not "technically" on the ice – since it's not too many men, how many men are on the ice at that time? It has to be 5, right? If so, who are the 5? There's 6 with skates on the ice, but if it's a legal change, the player leaving isn't technically on the ice, is he?
Blown call! Nothing new for the NHL. Even the Penguin broadcasters said it was off…
The play was offsides. The NHL got it wrong. As said below the player leaving the ice had his foot on the ice when the puck entered so he was offsides, but they ruled that the foot came off the ice before the second Penguin crossed the blue line making the play onside. However two issues with this. The current rule is that the foot doesn't have to be touching the blue line anymore it has to be in the plane of the blue line. When the penguin lifted his leg off the ice the rule still applies it would have to be in the plane of the blue line. This would technically be the same as having the player jump in the air in the offensive zone and as long as the second player made it over the blue line while the first player was still in the air it would be on side then the player would land back on the ice but the play was deemed onside. The way to test this would be the following: since there is no rule for getting onto the bench the Islanders instead of regaining the blue line they should jump onto the wall of the bench like they are climbing off the ice into the bench but as soon as the player goes over the blue line then jump back into the the offensive zone it would be the same thing.
The explanation on the broadcast, initially, was wrong. They said it was ruled that the skates were off the ice, but the play wasn't offsides because the player leaving the ice was the last to clear the zone. Nobody crossed the blue line for Pittsburgh until that player was off the ice, making the goal legal because the zone was cleared.
6 comments
What the most puzzling to me is most of these guys were on the team when the PK was decent. Did lambert undo it that much that it can’t get back? This PK is so bad it is very comcerning
The fact that they ruled that Rakell tipped it in the neutral zone is the key to the ruling. They said that doing that turned it into a delayed offside situation so all Pitt has to do is clear the zone. So then the question becomes did 55's skate come up before 67 entered the zone. They say it did. I disagree but at least that's a better explanation than his skate was up when the puck entered the zone which it clearly wasn't.
So my theory is, he's not "technically" on the ice – since it's not too many men, how many men are on the ice at that time? It has to be 5, right? If so, who are the 5? There's 6 with skates on the ice, but if it's a legal change, the player leaving isn't technically on the ice, is he?
Blown call! Nothing new for the NHL. Even the Penguin broadcasters said it was off…
The play was offsides. The NHL got it wrong. As said below the player leaving the ice had his foot on the ice when the puck entered so he was offsides, but they ruled that the foot came off the ice before the second Penguin crossed the blue line making the play onside. However two issues with this. The current rule is that the foot doesn't have to be touching the blue line anymore it has to be in the plane of the blue line. When the penguin lifted his leg off the ice the rule still applies it would have to be in the plane of the blue line. This would technically be the same as having the player jump in the air in the offensive zone and as long as the second player made it over the blue line while the first player was still in the air it would be on side then the player would land back on the ice but the play was deemed onside. The way to test this would be the following: since there is no rule for getting onto the bench the Islanders instead of regaining the blue line they should jump onto the wall of the bench like they are climbing off the ice into the bench but as soon as the player goes over the blue line then jump back into the the offensive zone it would be the same thing.
The explanation on the broadcast, initially, was wrong. They said it was ruled that the skates were off the ice, but the play wasn't offsides because the player leaving the ice was the last to clear the zone. Nobody crossed the blue line for Pittsburgh until that player was off the ice, making the goal legal because the zone was cleared.