Maybe not Zac. But they need to bring in an actual smart OC or fire Lou and the CB coaches.
Defense is a disgrace and goes to show that people calling the Mike Brown family idiots are right
He’s under .500 after about 100 games and is .300 in the division. It’s time
Zac needs a OC to call plays he is a leader of men and belongs as the HC but JB needs to go handpick himself a playcaller
Hot seat but changes to defense must be made.
I personally see this as more of a front office issue.
Here me out, most of our losses have been kinda flukey chief game should have been a win, 4th down and we get called for dpi, ravens week 5 Mac missed a field goal that would’ve won us the game, Washington defensive was completely ass and if we just would’ve had 1 defensive stop we would’ve won the game, last week if chase brown never fumbled or if CTB would’ve secured the ball and got the interception we would be a 7-2 team, I think Zac been doing a great job with the talent he has, we just have too many rookies on the team, Hendrickson chase and burrow are the only people we should worry about keeping in Cincinnati, hell throw some money at CTB too
At this point wholesale changes are required. Like how can the team just be unprepared the first few weeks each season. Defense needs a complete overhaul with fresh coaching.
If he doesn’t do something about that defense, he should be!
I think firing Zac right now would be a bad move. We are so close to being an elite team the way the offense is cooking. There are obviously changes that need to be made, but people need to realize that firing the coaching staff means starting a new rebuild and sets the team back at least a year or 2. Now, if the rest of the season doesn’t go well and next year isn’t better, then we can talk about some firings.
I remember reading somewhere that one of the stats with the highest variance year to year is win/loss record in one-score games
so far this season we are 1-5 in one-score games
there’s been some questionable calls, but so much of this feels like bad variance against good teams
Zac ain’t the problem. It’s Lou.
I’m with you actually. I really believe that if he’s given the tools he can lead us to the promised land. He did something no Bengals head coach has done since Sam Wyche, got the team believing in themselves. No small feat considering the garbage culture we had in place since Sam left. He cleaned house and got us going in the right direction. Anarumo did GREAT too until we started letting our effective D players go. The problem is higher up the chain.
Nah, he’s gotta go. They can’t protect the franchise QB. 5 straight years. Adios.
Those that want him fired, be careful what ypu wish for. We had a ton of bad coaching over the years, and if you weren’t here or didn’t know what that looked like, I assure you, they were not good times.
This team is still good enough that it still doesn’t feel like those old times just yet. The culture is still there and I think players still want to come here based on burrow and chase and how guys like Hndrxn plays.
We’re losing games by single scores in ultra close games and we compete. I don’t see players giving up like they did in years prior.
Lou still puts together good game plans and with a few more pieces it would be a good enough defense based on what our offense can do.
I understand feeling upset, but as long as Mike Brown is here then management won’t change a lot. The man does care and did create the team for his father. Like his ways or not you’re stuck with him and that’s ok.
I’ll take today’s team over most of what we had in our past.
Who dey!
Zac Taylor seems like a genuinely awesome guy. I’m sure he’s doing everything he can to try and turn things around. Bengals fans have been spoiled and awful and shameful this year. Shit happens.
Look at the Lions. Their HC is amazing – but he would just be a loudmouth if he didn’t have the A Team supporting him. Their coordinators and training staff are top notch. So is their drafting team…there’s a documentary on YouTube of their 2023 draft and they overhauled their entire roster that year. It takes everyone.
Blaming one guy is smooth brain, ape minded and near sighted. I’ve lost faith with this fanbase this year. But this is just humanity at a fault, burn the witch at the stake mentality. Not only is that hurting yourself, but I guarantee that mindset is making the sports team you’re rooting for press for success in an unhealthy way. Find another emotional outlet and move the fuck on.
It’s fine to voice your complaints but leave peoples families out of it. Also, maybe take the time to learn what the fuck you’re complaining about first before opening your mouth. Too many times whenever things are going bad and I give my attention to any sports team I like’s fanbase I see people open their mouth and shit spews out. Clearly it’s a projection of their own shit.
Zac doesn’t have a supporting cast that will be able to take the team to the promise land. That is upper management and it trickles down. Bengals need better coaches and players. This team is being pushed by three players: Trey, Jamar and Joe. That’s not an army. We need an army.
I want to see Lou go before Zac, but ZT is on the hot seat for me. I was defending him for a long time but some of the decisions Thursday were just so dumb
Mid season firings are never the answer. Not going to get a bounce after. Coaching changes need to happen in the offseason.
I literally made a disgusted face and said “Gross”
It’s not Zac it’s defense, and it has been all season. No matter what play call Zac chooses this subreddit will cry and say he needs to be fired. It’s our old and slow defense.
Idk how u make this post with no case to back it up
Lou on the other hand….
I agree fwiw, and it probably doesn’t matter anyway. He’s almost certainly going to be around for 2025, I would make a significant bet on that.
Here’s what might and should probably change though. 1) Lou and Defensive staff at large. As much as he’s been awesome at times and his coaching was a primary reason we reached the Super Bowl; the results and player development have been frankly awful the last two seasons. 2) Frank Pollack should be gone, this is a no doubter to me. He’s never put together a line that has played well for any extended stretch here, and the run game that he coordinates has been at best uninspiring but efficient enough and at other times objectively awful. The fact that they never run the ball on short yardage situations tells you about all you need to know.
Fake take, didn’t even come with any reasoning
Desperation of the fans is skyrocketing. Real issues should be with the front office. Did not do enough to put us over the top.
Enjoy never winning!
Hello Zac Taylor
As an offensive HC, their offense has not been the problem. They have been a top 10 team in points per game 3 out of the last 4 years, with the exception last year when Joey B was hurt most of the year. People constantly second guess his decisions but they are scoring enough points. If they had an average defense they would keep making deep playoff runs assuming JB stays healthy. The front office has fucked this defense.
You can still like him.
I think he would make a fine drive thru worker for McDonald’s.
There’s an opening as a really good one got promoted recently and would LOVE him in that role.
Duke needs to go before Ball Sac. But his seat is definitely hot
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Only if they had an actual offensive coordinator.
I don’t mind him being HC, I know he’s well liked in the locker room, but he cannot call plays to save his life.
Zac Taylor is a symptom of the problem, not THE problem.
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Maybe not Zac. But they need to bring in an actual smart OC or fire Lou and the CB coaches.
Defense is a disgrace and goes to show that people calling the Mike Brown family idiots are right
He’s under .500 after about 100 games and is .300 in the division. It’s time
Zac needs a OC to call plays
he is a leader of men and belongs as the HC but JB needs to go handpick himself a playcaller
Hot seat but changes to defense must be made.
I personally see this as more of a front office issue.
Here me out, most of our losses have been kinda flukey chief game should have been a win, 4th down and we get called for dpi, ravens week 5 Mac missed a field goal that would’ve won us the game, Washington defensive was completely ass and if we just would’ve had 1 defensive stop we would’ve won the game, last week if chase brown never fumbled or if CTB would’ve secured the ball and got the interception we would be a 7-2 team, I think Zac been doing a great job with the talent he has, we just have too many rookies on the team, Hendrickson chase and burrow are the only people we should worry about keeping in Cincinnati, hell throw some money at CTB too
At this point wholesale changes are required. Like how can the team just be unprepared the first few weeks each season. Defense needs a complete overhaul with fresh coaching.
https://preview.redd.it/rrnsl0qrzxzd1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55dd9862d9c7a536dabd25c1cb5bff0f8446f08f
If he doesn’t do something about that defense, he should be!
I think firing Zac right now would be a bad move. We are so close to being an elite team the way the offense is cooking. There are obviously changes that need to be made, but people need to realize that firing the coaching staff means starting a new rebuild and sets the team back at least a year or 2. Now, if the rest of the season doesn’t go well and next year isn’t better, then we can talk about some firings.
I remember reading somewhere that one of the stats with the highest variance year to year is win/loss record in one-score games
so far this season we are 1-5 in one-score games
there’s been some questionable calls, but so much of this feels like bad variance against good teams
Zac ain’t the problem. It’s Lou.
I’m with you actually. I really believe that if he’s given the tools he can lead us to the promised land. He did something no Bengals head coach has done since Sam Wyche, got the team believing in themselves. No small feat considering the garbage culture we had in place since Sam left. He cleaned house and got us going in the right direction. Anarumo did GREAT too until we started letting our effective D players go. The problem is higher up the chain.
Nah, he’s gotta go. They can’t protect the franchise QB. 5 straight years. Adios.
Those that want him fired, be careful what ypu wish for. We had a ton of bad coaching over the years, and if you weren’t here or didn’t know what that looked like, I assure you, they were not good times.
This team is still good enough that it still doesn’t feel like those old times just yet. The culture is still there and I think players still want to come here based on burrow and chase and how guys like Hndrxn plays.
We’re losing games by single scores in ultra close games and we compete. I don’t see players giving up like they did in years prior.
Lou still puts together good game plans and with a few more pieces it would be a good enough defense based on what our offense can do.
I understand feeling upset, but as long as Mike Brown is here then management won’t change a lot. The man does care and did create the team for his father. Like his ways or not you’re stuck with him and that’s ok.
I’ll take today’s team over most of what we had in our past.
Who dey!
Zac Taylor seems like a genuinely awesome guy. I’m sure he’s doing everything he can to try and turn things around. Bengals fans have been spoiled and awful and shameful this year. Shit happens.
Look at the Lions. Their HC is amazing – but he would just be a loudmouth if he didn’t have the A Team supporting him. Their coordinators and training staff are top notch. So is their drafting team…there’s a documentary on YouTube of their 2023 draft and they overhauled their entire roster that year. It takes everyone.
Blaming one guy is smooth brain, ape minded and near sighted. I’ve lost faith with this fanbase this year. But this is just humanity at a fault, burn the witch at the stake mentality. Not only is that hurting yourself, but I guarantee that mindset is making the sports team you’re rooting for press for success in an unhealthy way. Find another emotional outlet and move the fuck on.
It’s fine to voice your complaints but leave peoples families out of it. Also, maybe take the time to learn what the fuck you’re complaining about first before opening your mouth. Too many times whenever things are going bad and I give my attention to any sports team I like’s fanbase I see people open their mouth and shit spews out. Clearly it’s a projection of their own shit.
Zac doesn’t have a supporting cast that will be able to take the team to the promise land. That is upper management and it trickles down. Bengals need better coaches and players. This team is being pushed by three players: Trey, Jamar and Joe. That’s not an army. We need an army.
I want to see Lou go before Zac, but ZT is on the hot seat for me. I was defending him for a long time but some of the decisions Thursday were just so dumb
Mid season firings are never the answer. Not going to get a bounce after. Coaching changes need to happen in the offseason.
I literally made a disgusted face and said “Gross”
It’s not Zac it’s defense, and it has been all season. No matter what play call Zac chooses this subreddit will cry and say he needs to be fired. It’s our old and slow defense.
Idk how u make this post with no case to back it up
Lou on the other hand….
I agree fwiw, and it probably doesn’t matter anyway. He’s almost certainly going to be around for 2025, I would make a significant bet on that.
Here’s what might and should probably change though. 1) Lou and Defensive staff at large. As much as he’s been awesome at times and his coaching was a primary reason we reached the Super Bowl; the results and player development have been frankly awful the last two seasons. 2) Frank Pollack should be gone, this is a no doubter to me. He’s never put together a line that has played well for any extended stretch here, and the run game that he coordinates has been at best uninspiring but efficient enough and at other times objectively awful. The fact that they never run the ball on short yardage situations tells you about all you need to know.
Fake take, didn’t even come with any reasoning
Desperation of the fans is skyrocketing. Real issues should be with the front office. Did not do enough to put us over the top.
Enjoy never winning!
Hello Zac Taylor
As an offensive HC, their offense has not been the problem. They have been a top 10 team in points per game 3 out of the last 4 years, with the exception last year when Joey B was hurt most of the year. People constantly second guess his decisions but they are scoring enough points. If they had an average defense they would keep making deep playoff runs assuming JB stays healthy. The front office has fucked this defense.
You can still like him.
I think he would make a fine drive thru worker for McDonald’s.
There’s an opening as a really good one got promoted recently and would LOVE him in that role.
Duke needs to go before Ball Sac. But his seat is definitely hot