Link below. But relevant part here:
The Browns have indicated a new domed stadium in Brook Park would host more than 50 special events a year, beyond NFL games, such as concerts, or collegiate sports, according to the report.
But other cities that are similar to Cleveland and have domed stadiums don’t see nearly that level of activity.
In 2023, Detroit’s Ford Field hosted 12 big events, Indianapolis’ Lucas Oil Stadium hosted four, and Minneapolis’ U.S. Bank Stadium hosted six. All three regions have a larger population than the Cleveland area.
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Well the current stadium hosts maybe 1 summer concert a year outside of football events, so anything more than that is a plus
Makes no sense ( or cents). We have so many mid sized venues and very few large show justify the cost of a stadium
Haslem not doing his research before making a huge decision? Perish the thought!
If you’re making the huge investment in a stadium these days it only makes sense to make it a dome. The dome gives you more options to monetize your investment long term. I don’t blame Haslam for insisting on a dome.
What qualifies a big event? Any event beyond Browns home games are additional revenue
And not only that, the development is an entire district. Hotels, apartments, retail, etc. It will generate revenue 365 days a year
Special events are not necessarily big events. Maybe they make a play for some business conventions with the bonus of being located so close to the airport. Or maybe Jimmy H. is full of shit & is happy to say whatever gets him a shiny new stadium he doesn’t have to pay for.
It’s Haslam. The doofus has been an owner forever and most of the fanbase still can’t spell his name.
Making money from events is peanuts compared to getting taxpayer subsidies to increase the value of real estate they own.
They should put a medical mart in the new complex
Cleveland would absolutely host many events lol. Not 50 but it’s still very high
Big events is subjective. The other stadiums are used all the time by the cities they are in. Go look up the Lucas oil calendar. Sure, it’s not Taylor Swift every weekend but college games, band competitions, whatever else are happening all the time.
> 5 big non-football events
> Lucas Oil Stadium hosted four
I mean I guess I don’t know what “big” means but Lucas Oil has stuff going on all the time.
High school football, high school band competition, DCI competitions, BoA competitions, WWE, college football, concerts, supercross, monster trucks, college basketball, NBA All-Star, Olympic trials, etc.
https://www.lucasoilstadium.com/events-tickets/
According to their event calendar they had 29 events aside from NFL games in 2024.
The talking heads are telling us people will be flying from all over this country to Brook Park for a world class experience.
What a joke. The vast majority of cities will have 1- better weather or 2- a dome in a walkable downtown. That thing will sit empty in its huge, sad parking lot.
https://fox8.com/news/report-shows-staggering-losses-for-cleveland-if-browns-move-i-team/
Ownership knows this and doesn’t care. They’ll claim this to win over the uniformed and politicians looking to sell growth.
It’s not about the number of events, rather the “quality” (aka lucrative) of events that Cleveland isn’t barred from due to venue constraints.
One leg of the Taylor Swift tour generates +$90M between the show, hotels, merch etc.
not all in jimmy’s pocket – but if you can grab an event or two like that each year it starts making more sense
Ford Field hosts college football (including bowl games), high school football state championships, big time concerts like the Rolling Stones and Taylor Swift, pro wrestling, Monster Jam, all kinds of stuff. The venue even hosted a Bills game when a blizzard hit Buffalo. You have a lot of options under a roof.
He doesn’t. He’s trying to convince us.
Its has as much to do with improving the players experience as it does the fans. In Watson’s first year we saw him play in some atrocious weather in back to back weeks. It didn’t go well and they couldn’t effectively run their pass happy offense.
He can do whatever he wants as long as the city doesn’t pay for a dime of it
Who cares?
The Browns are building a dome in Brook Park so let me start shrieking like crazy on social media about how it’s Oh So Terrible! “What a joke!!! Haslam is such an idiot!!!”
Does it seriously ruin your life? Like… does it tarnish everything you love and believe in? You were on your way to having an enriched, fulfilling life until that demon Haslam conjured an evil scheme to build a dome!
I 100% don’t mean it in a bad way. I understand having preferences – I have my own. But man… I just truly don’t get all the hate and misery about this. 😂 Everyone’s all upset and bitter about the billionaire doing billionaire things.
Guys Haslam isn’t smart
The bigger question to me is the surrounding mixed development they want. What is going to be there that will attract people outside of stadium events? On the west side alone you have Crocker Park and Strongsville already providing most of the upper middle class retail and dining you expect. The east side has Legacy Village, Pinecrest, and Mentor.
I just don’t see what could be there that would be unique compared to what we already have access to. I joked in a previous post that an Ikea next to the stadium would be a good fit, but the more I think about it the more I actually think that’s a good idea.
He doesn’t. It’s a grift.
Haslam
It’s really all about hosting a Super Bowl within the first few years of opening.
All the other stuff (bowl games/concerts/WWE/Final Fours) is just noise/nice to have.
he’s probably counting other events held at those complexes, not at the stadium portion itself.
of course in this case, the rest of the convention resources would still be downtown.
He wants the retail space like Jerry. Dome is just the bait
I just wish they would give us a nice outdoor stadium. Football inside, doesn’t feel like football too me. Im a season ticket holder. I got to all the games. I love the weather. It’s what makes us tough. Will be sad to see. Haslem is just looking for extra cash. That’s it
I’m not a Browns fan, but I went to Cleveland recently and spent a lot of time around Huntington Bank Field- and it looks really nice? Like if anything, I was impressed by how fresh and modern it looked, and I loved its location on Lake Erie.
Is the stadium just worse than it looks, or is this just a billionaire’s push to build a tax-payer funded stadium because “why not”?