Cronin Despised by Ducks Players (via Spittin’ Chiclets)
November 19, 2024
The Ducks come up during a discussion about coaches on the hot seat (around 1:08:25 mark). Based on what they’re saying, it sounds like the players are completely out on Cronin.
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Eh these guys always sound like cartman saying “I’m just asking questions”
Doesn’t mean they’re wrong, but saying they haven’t heard it from the players but they’ve heard it. Idk.
And in the end, Cro is still the kind of guy that Verbeek wants. If you’re not on the ice, you’re in the weight room. If you’re not in the weight room, you’re watching video.
It’s reminiscent of the Carlyle days, but the difference is the young guys are much different. This isnt the Perry, Getzlaf, Penner, Ryan era. If you’re not finding a way to connect with the young core, then its on you, and it reflects in the record and player stats.
This could also be old news from the lybushkin thing that they are referencing. Team just needs to start winning and get some confidence. That’s what we have seen from last 2 games and need to make it 3 in a row tonight against arguably THE worst team in the league.
Welp, Jim Montgomery is free lol
This is just rumor shit though. Like none have them have spoken to ducks players.
Some of y’all are commenting like these dudes aren’t the ones responsible for Babcock no longer being allowed to haze rookies somewhere in the league. Their rumors have legs seeing as they’re friends with guys still sitting in the lockers rooms… also only Biz said he didn’t talk to the players and was referencing the summer news, I don’t know that Whit and the other guy were referencing that news any more than you don’t. And the looks on guys faces and the product on the ice this season leans a little more in their favor than you Cronin defenders.
Edit: idk why I wrote tortorella at first
Well, the team has been picking it up. He’ll finish the year. Anyways, he’s not a long time coach for our team, he’s just a piece of the puzzle
I just hope we don’t trade any of our young guys because they don’t fit his style
Winning solves everything. Hopefully we can get a winning streak going so the kids see results and maybe buy in a little more. I def think they need some tough love and need to realize that going out to clubs in Newport on a week night after a loss is not the best look. They’re getting paid so they should held to a high standard of accountability and professionalism during the work week/season
Biz specifically said that he heard this around the time of exit interviews, which was well before the Lybushkin article. Whitney doesn’t ever say where or when he heard it, but it didn’t sound like he was insinuating it was “old news”.
Love them or hate them, Biz and Whit are usually right on the money. They’re arguably the most connected “insiders” in the game. I think where there’s smoke, there’s fire. Remember how quick everyone was to shit on them when Boone Jenner came out and shut down the Mike Babcock shit? Look who came out on top of that one. Players will tell those two shit that they wouldn’t dare tell guys like Friedman. If they “heard it”, I’d imagine it came directly from someone’s mouth.
One name that comes to mind is Adam Henrique. We know Whit is pretty involved in the Oilers, and we know Henrique has a lot of old friends left in Anaheim, and believe it or not, has proven that he isn’t exactly above being petty. I wonder if he could be the source.
Like I said, I don’t think any of this is scripture, but I definitely think that there’s something there.
U dont have to like ur coach if u win games
I don’t think anyone can reasonably say that the Spitting Chiclets guys don’t know people or hear things from people inside various hockey orgs.
That being said the podcast’s livelihood is directly correlated with generating engagement/clicks, which is exactly what they’re doing here.
So while the anecdotal information is interesting (and confirms what many in here already think) I don’t think we need to jump to conclusions or yell at people if they see things differently.
Yup after the last nights win, it sure looks like the players have given up on the coach.
IMO it’s not about lack of player dedication, it is about a coach that is terrible at his job and the players know his passive fallback D does not work.
An amazing change FINALLY where we don’t look like we are killing penalties because the players are getting to pucks with a more aggressive normal style of reducing time and space and taking the body.
His practices and style are garbage.
PVB may be stubborn, but he’s given us no reason to believe he’s stupid. He’s not going to uproot the system and get rid of talent just because they don’t fit Cronin’s system. If the young core of our team is not responding well to Cronin’s coaching style (which based on rumors is what it sounds like) then he’s gone, simple as that.
Like Biz said, there’s room for tough love in the locker room, but not to the extent that it becomes toxic and guys start shutting down and tuning the coach out. Cronin’s job is to build up this young roster’s talent and instill good habits among them. He can absolutely do that with a tough love coaching style. The only people who know how effective he’s being is our FO.
Unfortunately for us and the players, Verbeek is cut from the same cloth Cronin is. It’s why he was hired in the first place.
This report might confirm it, but anybody with a brain knew this already. From the play on the ice, to our guys body language.. even Bush’s interview.
Me personally, I’d like some new leadership who aren’t stuck in the 1980s
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Eh these guys always sound like cartman saying “I’m just asking questions”
Doesn’t mean they’re wrong, but saying they haven’t heard it from the players but they’ve heard it. Idk.
And in the end, Cro is still the kind of guy that Verbeek wants. If you’re not on the ice, you’re in the weight room. If you’re not in the weight room, you’re watching video.
It’s reminiscent of the Carlyle days, but the difference is the young guys are much different. This isnt the Perry, Getzlaf, Penner, Ryan era. If you’re not finding a way to connect with the young core, then its on you, and it reflects in the record and player stats.
This could also be old news from the lybushkin thing that they are referencing. Team just needs to start winning and get some confidence. That’s what we have seen from last 2 games and need to make it 3 in a row tonight against arguably THE worst team in the league.
Welp, Jim Montgomery is free lol
This is just rumor shit though. Like none have them have spoken to ducks players.
Some of y’all are commenting like these dudes aren’t the ones responsible for Babcock no longer being allowed to haze rookies somewhere in the league. Their rumors have legs seeing as they’re friends with guys still sitting in the lockers rooms… also only Biz said he didn’t talk to the players and was referencing the summer news, I don’t know that Whit and the other guy were referencing that news any more than you don’t. And the looks on guys faces and the product on the ice this season leans a little more in their favor than you Cronin defenders.
Edit: idk why I wrote tortorella at first
Well, the team has been picking it up. He’ll finish the year. Anyways, he’s not a long time coach for our team, he’s just a piece of the puzzle
I just hope we don’t trade any of our young guys because they don’t fit his style
Winning solves everything. Hopefully we can get a winning streak going so the kids see results and maybe buy in a little more. I def think they need some tough love and need to realize that going out to clubs in Newport on a week night after a loss is not the best look. They’re getting paid so they should held to a high standard of accountability and professionalism during the work week/season
Biz specifically said that he heard this around the time of exit interviews, which was well before the Lybushkin article. Whitney doesn’t ever say where or when he heard it, but it didn’t sound like he was insinuating it was “old news”.
Love them or hate them, Biz and Whit are usually right on the money. They’re arguably the most connected “insiders” in the game. I think where there’s smoke, there’s fire. Remember how quick everyone was to shit on them when Boone Jenner came out and shut down the Mike Babcock shit? Look who came out on top of that one. Players will tell those two shit that they wouldn’t dare tell guys like Friedman. If they “heard it”, I’d imagine it came directly from someone’s mouth.
One name that comes to mind is Adam Henrique. We know Whit is pretty involved in the Oilers, and we know Henrique has a lot of old friends left in Anaheim, and believe it or not, has proven that he isn’t exactly above being petty. I wonder if he could be the source.
Like I said, I don’t think any of this is scripture, but I definitely think that there’s something there.
U dont have to like ur coach if u win games
I don’t think anyone can reasonably say that the Spitting Chiclets guys don’t know people or hear things from people inside various hockey orgs.
That being said the podcast’s livelihood is directly correlated with generating engagement/clicks, which is exactly what they’re doing here.
So while the anecdotal information is interesting (and confirms what many in here already think) I don’t think we need to jump to conclusions or yell at people if they see things differently.
Yup after the last nights win, it sure looks like the players have given up on the coach.
IMO it’s not about lack of player dedication, it is about a coach that is terrible at his job and the players know his passive fallback D does not work.
An amazing change FINALLY where we don’t look like we are killing penalties because the players are getting to pucks with a more aggressive normal style of reducing time and space and taking the body.
His practices and style are garbage.
PVB may be stubborn, but he’s given us no reason to believe he’s stupid. He’s not going to uproot the system and get rid of talent just because they don’t fit Cronin’s system. If the young core of our team is not responding well to Cronin’s coaching style (which based on rumors is what it sounds like) then he’s gone, simple as that.
Like Biz said, there’s room for tough love in the locker room, but not to the extent that it becomes toxic and guys start shutting down and tuning the coach out. Cronin’s job is to build up this young roster’s talent and instill good habits among them. He can absolutely do that with a tough love coaching style. The only people who know how effective he’s being is our FO.
Unfortunately for us and the players, Verbeek is cut from the same cloth Cronin is. It’s why he was hired in the first place.
This report might confirm it, but anybody with a brain knew this already. From the play on the ice, to our guys body language.. even Bush’s interview.
Me personally, I’d like some new leadership who aren’t stuck in the 1980s