Carson Palmer, Jonathan Joseph, and Corey Dillon, all were right
Very obviously yes, and it really isn’t something that needed this much hindsight. He basically asked that the franchise operate like a real organization, get a GM and raise standards to adequate levels acceptable for the NFL, and Mike Brown gave a flat no.
And it’s ridiculous how the fans treated him/his family in the aftermath. Just scummy shit.
Once is a chance.
Twice is a coincidence.
Three times is a pattern and who you are.
Our feelings are always real, but they aren’t always true.
Yes. He had a poor experience in Cincinnati, certainly towards the end of his time there.
But, almost predictably, he raved about how … the Arizona Cardinals – had a great culture of winning, excellence, etc.. Which isn’t exactly slam dunk case for one to make, and I think must be viewed through a prism of vindictivness.
It was never about right or wrong, it was about how he went about it.
I’m still blindly hopeful the next generation of Browns get with the times once Mike has fully let go of his power
Yes. That was never in doubt. A good chunk of Bengal fans are/were just bitter because Carson said he hated Ohio state in 2008, and they were very much in denial
Of course he was. He didn’t say anything we weren’t saying.
Its like when you talk shit about your family then someone else dose it.
Its okay when you do it but when someone else dos, those are fightin words.
I listen to Boomer in the morning (I live in the NYC area) and he’s said some similar things with his experience when he was with the Jets. Jets may not have the most successful team but he was surprised to see how an NFL team could be run compared to what he had experienced in Cincinnati.
Yes
How many times do I have to see this dumb shit
“Howard Johnson is right about Olsen Johnson being right!”
Cracks me up seeing fans defend the Bengals. They are a cheap ass team. Always have been and always will be
Yes. Doesn’t mean passionate fans aren’t allowed to be upset with him for quitting on the team at the time. But history has proven itself over and over again since his tenure. This organization never fully optimizes its chances each year, won’t spend the money on a proper GM and scouting department, holds onto mediocre and bad coaches for far too long. These are all facts.
This sub is ridiculous. Two years ago Carson was the devil and now he’s right about everything he said? Make up your mind people! And for the record, he’s been right the entire time. The only difference between now and then, literally the only difference, is Burrow. As soon as he’s gone, we’re right back to where we were before.
Of course he was right. What kind of question is that? If you were alive to see the 90s and saw it happen again during his tenure. How could you think anything different?
Yes. He never said anything that hasn’t been said in this sub thousands of times.
No. The Bengals have made steps to modernize their team, etc… the problem is Zac Taylor had a ceiling and he has hit it. He needed to make tough decisions after last year and they hoped that stability in the coaching staff (minus Callahan, which they probably upgraded there) would suffice. Pollock sucks and is 2 years overdue for being let go. Lou had a good run in 2021 but that is done and their personnel is no better than last year.
Dumping money into a team doesn’t make you winners – see Cowboys, Browns, etc…. It’s coaching the talent you have to make them effective. We need a playmaker, besides Trey, on defense and the interior of our O-line needs a seismic upgrade. The ladder may be more a coaching thing than personnel thing.
It’s not that I think Palmer was wrong. I just think he’s an asshole.
During our Super Bowl run I watched my childhood QB take every opportunity to rain on the parade. He was extremely unhappy for our success that year.
Fucking a man.
Bengals fans are an interesting bunch. Our dysfunctional football family hasn’t been the same since Paul Brown passed. He held the reins TIGHTLY because he knew what he was doing. His kids learned to do the same but don’t know how to run a football team. (watch Bengals version of Hard Knocks, Mike does not know the game) They’re fantastic business people but not great football people. The funny part is, I genuinely believe that the Broen family really wants to do the right thing by the city and the fans, they just do t know how & are unwilling to give up any control to someone that does know how. Until that changes we are stuck with what we have know. Sometimes we luck into amazing talent and have a good stretch. The door is closed people. No SB coming anytime soon.
The part that’s hard for me personally is that I’m a fan of Joe Burrow, Ja’Maar Chase, Tee Higgins and Trey Hendrickson. I feel they deserve a shot at winning the big one and as much as I love seeing them in Black & Orange I hope they get their shots with a real franchise elsewhere. Imagine what Miami or Dallas could do with Burrow under center. Or Chase or Higgins in Baltimore ballin’ out with Jackson, Flowers & Henry. Put Hendrickson opposite Watt and the Steelers are unstoppable.
Of course he was. HOF talent wasted in this city. I proudly wear my Palmer jersey only to hear the Cincinnati faithful tell me he was a POS and I shouldn’t wear his jersey.
He was right, Dillion was right, Spikes was right, Pickens was right..
I was never against Carson’s reasoning.
I forgave Carson a very long time ago.. I still like him. He gave us hope when we had none.. but we all know the rest.. one can only take so much.. that’s any job any profession
Yes absolutely bengals organization is a joke
Kimo von Oelhoffen hit was damn dirty shame 🤡
Yeah he was always right, he was just a cry baby about it
Can’t wait for next weeks Carson Palmer post
The Brown Family is #338 on the Forbes 400 list with a net worth of $3.9 billion. They 1) could have plugged holes at CB, RB, and DT, and 2) extended Chase. They did neither.
Yes, but it wasn’t exactly a secret. Maybe the media doesn’t always say it out loud but in NFL circles it is know the Bengals are a joke franchise. They knew this would not last.
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Unfortunately yes.
Carson Palmer, Jonathan Joseph, and Corey Dillon, all were right
Very obviously yes, and it really isn’t something that needed this much hindsight. He basically asked that the franchise operate like a real organization, get a GM and raise standards to adequate levels acceptable for the NFL, and Mike Brown gave a flat no.
And it’s ridiculous how the fans treated him/his family in the aftermath. Just scummy shit.
Once is a chance.
Twice is a coincidence.
Three times is a pattern and who you are.
Our feelings are always real, but they aren’t always true.
Yes. He had a poor experience in Cincinnati, certainly towards the end of his time there.
But, almost predictably, he raved about how … the Arizona Cardinals – had a great culture of winning, excellence, etc.. Which isn’t exactly slam dunk case for one to make, and I think must be viewed through a prism of vindictivness.
It was never about right or wrong, it was about how he went about it.
I’m still blindly hopeful the next generation of Browns get with the times once Mike has fully let go of his power
Yes. That was never in doubt. A good chunk of Bengal fans are/were just bitter because Carson said he hated Ohio state in 2008, and they were very much in denial
Of course he was. He didn’t say anything we weren’t saying.
Its like when you talk shit about your family then someone else dose it.
Its okay when you do it but when someone else dos, those are fightin words.
I listen to Boomer in the morning (I live in the NYC area) and he’s said some similar things with his experience when he was with the Jets. Jets may not have the most successful team but he was surprised to see how an NFL team could be run compared to what he had experienced in Cincinnati.
Yes
How many times do I have to see this dumb shit
“Howard Johnson is right about Olsen Johnson being right!”
Cracks me up seeing fans defend the Bengals. They are a cheap ass team. Always have been and always will be
Yes. Doesn’t mean passionate fans aren’t allowed to be upset with him for quitting on the team at the time. But history has proven itself over and over again since his tenure. This organization never fully optimizes its chances each year, won’t spend the money on a proper GM and scouting department, holds onto mediocre and bad coaches for far too long. These are all facts.
This sub is ridiculous. Two years ago Carson was the devil and now he’s right about everything he said? Make up your mind people! And for the record, he’s been right the entire time. The only difference between now and then, literally the only difference, is Burrow. As soon as he’s gone, we’re right back to where we were before.
Of course he was right. What kind of question is that? If you were alive to see the 90s and saw it happen again during his tenure. How could you think anything different?
Yes. He never said anything that hasn’t been said in this sub thousands of times.
No. The Bengals have made steps to modernize their team, etc… the problem is Zac Taylor had a ceiling and he has hit it. He needed to make tough decisions after last year and they hoped that stability in the coaching staff (minus Callahan, which they probably upgraded there) would suffice. Pollock sucks and is 2 years overdue for being let go. Lou had a good run in 2021 but that is done and their personnel is no better than last year.
Dumping money into a team doesn’t make you winners – see Cowboys, Browns, etc…. It’s coaching the talent you have to make them effective. We need a playmaker, besides Trey, on defense and the interior of our O-line needs a seismic upgrade. The ladder may be more a coaching thing than personnel thing.
It’s not that I think Palmer was wrong. I just think he’s an asshole.
During our Super Bowl run I watched my childhood QB take every opportunity to rain on the parade. He was extremely unhappy for our success that year.
Fucking a man.
Bengals fans are an interesting bunch. Our dysfunctional football family hasn’t been the same since Paul Brown passed. He held the reins TIGHTLY because he knew what he was doing. His kids learned to do the same but don’t know how to run a football team. (watch Bengals version of Hard Knocks, Mike does not know the game) They’re fantastic business people but not great football people. The funny part is, I genuinely believe that the Broen family really wants to do the right thing by the city and the fans, they just do t know how & are unwilling to give up any control to someone that does know how. Until that changes we are stuck with what we have know. Sometimes we luck into amazing talent and have a good stretch. The door is closed people. No SB coming anytime soon.
The part that’s hard for me personally is that I’m a fan of Joe Burrow, Ja’Maar Chase, Tee Higgins and Trey Hendrickson. I feel they deserve a shot at winning the big one and as much as I love seeing them in Black & Orange I hope they get their shots with a real franchise elsewhere. Imagine what Miami or Dallas could do with Burrow under center. Or Chase or Higgins in Baltimore ballin’ out with Jackson, Flowers & Henry. Put Hendrickson opposite Watt and the Steelers are unstoppable.
Of course he was. HOF talent wasted in this city. I proudly wear my Palmer jersey only to hear the Cincinnati faithful tell me he was a POS and I shouldn’t wear his jersey.
He was right, Dillion was right, Spikes was right, Pickens was right..
I was never against Carson’s reasoning.
I forgave Carson a very long time ago.. I still like him. He gave us hope when we had none.. but we all know the rest.. one can only take so much.. that’s any job any profession
Yes absolutely bengals organization is a joke
Kimo von Oelhoffen hit was damn dirty shame 🤡
Yeah he was always right, he was just a cry baby about it
Can’t wait for next weeks Carson Palmer post
The Brown Family is #338 on the Forbes 400 list with a net worth of $3.9 billion. They 1) could have plugged holes at CB, RB, and DT, and 2) extended Chase. They did neither.
Yes, but it wasn’t exactly a secret. Maybe the media doesn’t always say it out loud but in NFL circles it is know the Bengals are a joke franchise. They knew this would not last.
Yes so was Corey
No, he’s never been right
Absolutely he was!