Can the Seattle Seahawks learn anything from watching Sam Howell play last night?

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1. I learned that John Schneider needs to find two QB's this off-season.

2. My learning is, Geno smith is way better than I really thought from the previous games😂

3. I don't buy the whole: "He was thrown into the starting position mid game so it's not fair to judge him." You're being PAID as a backup, that's your job to expect and be prepared for that. What are you just on the sidelines watching YP and YT and munching on potato chips and then you're like, "ME, COACH!? BUT BUT!" Give me a break. I remember sometimes Seattle would be playing against a terrible starting QB (maybe just having an off day anyway, or dealing with a lingering injury that resurfaced), they'd get injured and I was like, "OH NO…." And sure enough the 2nd string came in and beat us. I think it was Schaub where that happened. There's other instances as well.

   Let's not also forget the Packers have one of the worst pressure/hurry rates in the NFL. Howell made them look like the 2007 Giants DL.

4. This coming from the guy that was bashing JSN not even 4 weeks ago. 'JSN no separation, JSN too slow'….. yep same Brendon.

   Howells first snaps of the year, the guy is 24….. don't forget that Geno was losing that game to begin with and once again threw another end zone interception. Discount Aaron Rodgers does what actual Aaron Rodgers does… make a few plays and then makes equally bad plays to effectively score no points and yet casuals love Aaron Rodgers…. same with Geno.

   Hawks could very well be out before week 18 if next week the Rams win and the Hawks lose…. so no point playing an injured Geno.

   Seahawks could have signed Lamar Jackson for a few 1sts, and had an elite QB…. where was JS then??

5. I think Daniel Jones is better than Sam Howell. He made the Seahawks look like chumps a few weeks ago and he's sitting on the Vikings practice squad. I think Geno is good enough to win a title on a stacked roster, like Joe Flacco or Nick Foles, or maybe like the 49ers or Steelers currently. However I don't think he deserves some massive commitment if its inhibiying building out the roster.

6. It looked like Yo simity Sam wasn't prepared to play.

7. The change to olu, laumea, lucas … my hopes of them raising us off the cellar floor have been dashed

8. Ahh yes… Geno leads the league in Redzone turnovers the past two years (this season isn’t even finished yet) The REDZONE… the most crucial part of the field, instead of 6…instead of 3…we get 0. He’s keeping us from scoring at least 3pts every time he does it and he LEADS THE LEAGUE! But Howell gets thrown in mid 3rd quarter down 17pts with the 3rd string Center and one interception completely removes him from the QB conversation? Hahaha no wonder we suck at home this year, we have the dumbest fans smh yall are so full of shit.

9. I feel like what really happened was that we ran into a team that peaking, while we're still rebuilding. And maybe we needed the wake-up call to that point.

10. Any possibility JAREN HALL starts at QB if Geno does not go, after all he knows the Vikings Defense ?

11. Any possibility JAREN HALL starts at QB if Geno does not go, after all he knows the Vikings Defense ?

12. He had 2 really bad throws… i would rather him a completion % of 63 if he wasnt constantly throwing redzone ints

13. “I think Geno is a top 10 qb in this league” In what world is that???

14. We learned that no matter what we can't trust the refs to call a fair game ever

15. Any "fan" that actually hopes their team tanks, ever, is not really a fan. There's no situation where you should ever want your team to lose. Quarterback savior draft picks hardly ever work out. There's so much more involved in the equation. It didn't work out for the Browns fans that celebrated Baker Mayfield, or the Bears fans that celebrated Mitch Trubisky (passing on Mahomes), or even the Jags fans that got once-in-a-decade talent Trevor Lawrence. Also remember "tank for Tua"? Lol. Would you ever want your college team to lose a game for any reason? This whole "we should tank for a draft pick" argument is so stupid. I watched the Houston Texans fire a coach for not tanking, which meant they had to settle on CJ Stroud instead of Bryce Young.

16. Sam Howell played a quarter and half ok.

17. He's a major step-down from Drew Locke

18. O line sucksss so bad and sam howell looked scared out there. Not ready at all or motivated. Even lock showed more energy. Last night we looked so bad

19. This hopefully should be an eye opener to Schneider to invest more into the oline

20. we learned geno is the way but i wouldnt read that much into howell rn

21. to me coordinator wise im out on grubb i watn someone who can actually call a redzone offense

22. Let's not sugar coat this. It was an all around terrible game. This team no longer has home field advantage. And they aren't very good yes they have good plays here and there. But they're consistently not very good..

23. Preaching the truth this morning!

24. If his knee structurally okay? Just have him pop a couple of greenies and he'll be fine.

25. I wonder if John Schneider will EVER draft talent early in the draft that can play offensive line at the nfl level…..otherwise it's time for him to go….

26. We're a mediocre team, with alleged great talent.. last night showed we are no where close to being top tier..2 to 3 years away and get Grubb the fuck outta Seattle

27. Geno went as a backup and drove 98 yards down the field.

28. Look, for Geno to throw an interception per game is F#$King amazing considering the O-line and how many times the WRs are tightly covered. Also, what seems to be the elephant in the room no one is talking about is why is Tyler Locker in the game. Screw the, well he pulls DBs away from other receivers. Thats not good enough, plus ad in his yac which is sub par, Yes? He is not able to contribute. The Hawks are playing with 2 receivers. Love Tyler, but this whole year he has not been what he once was.

29. While I don’t think sam was necessarily given a chance considering it’s about to ask anyone, especially a dude with only a single year as a starter, to come in midway through a game in December behind the o-line we have and play calling grub is doing to be able to succeed.

    I can’t fault Howell for struggling. But I can fault him for struggling as bad as he did lol.

    He played BAD. It felt like each drive he was in felt more chaotic than the last.

    I feel bad for the situation he was put in. But even considering that, Howell did not play even close to good.

30. If Geno keeps it up, maybe he can achieve Sam Howell's numbers from last year. YAY! Thank god he's a top 10 QB!

31. macdonald say we are optimistic that geno plays on sunday

32. Idk what the hell Grubb was thinking when Geno had only thrown 19 passes by the time he went down and then Howell immediately comes in and throws 14! They abandoned the run outside of the td after the turnover.

33. Y’all are overreacting. We are playing ahead of schedule in a rebuild but remember ….its a rebuild. Geno played terrible when he stepped in for Russ. I don’t think Sam Howell is the answer but he wasn’t ready to step up in a playoff atmosphere game. We have been patching up our offensive line and our defense is the focus of Mike Macdonald first in the rebuild. We still need 2 drafts and offseason before we are ready to take charge of the NFC west.

34. Ok i get it,this was national pick on Sam Howell day.

35. If you think Washington had a good offensive line last year you didnt see the same games i saw.

36. Back in the preseason, the first game Howell played, he looked really bad. But then, the next couple games, he came out and played well. I think there is a pretty good chance that he will play better next week if he has to start. I'm not too worried about it really, I just want to watch the games and see how the Seahawks do. If they are able to pick up the pieces and win the next 3 games and get into the playoffs, then great. If they are not, I'm okay with that too. Not really much point to get into the playoffs and just get beat in the first round; I'd rather they stay out and improve their draft position to be in a better position to make a run next year.

37. as much as geno is better than howell, let’s not act like geno is in the upper echelon of qbs, he’s got 14 td passes, and 12 interceptions, these are daniel jones numbers, at the end of day you gotta score points and prevent turnovers, i get there’s a story behind all them but cmon we gotta get real, we need to get real about our team and how good we actually are

38. I won't pass judgment on Howell until I see him play four quarters of football, but watching his play last night was painful.

39. We learned Sam Howell can't play football

40. I learned that sometimes your dreams weren’t meant for you.

41. Geno's knee injury last night coupled with Howell's awful performance just cemented that John and Mike will re-sign Geno this coming offseason, and I'll bet that they are regretting not extending Geno this past offseason ( it would have been cheaper compared to extending Geno this coming offseason ) because they probably thought that Howell would at least be decent after learning the Seahawks' new system in training camp, pre-season, and 14 regular season Seahawks' games under his belt, and Howell's bad pathetic performance last night just proved how valuable Geno is to this Seahawks team.

42. Hes geno smith with the TO without the excitement to be better tbh

43. Tbh im pissed because we got tricked out a pick he's not good he through ALMOST as many td and ints its really ridiculous we could've paid a backup or drafted a qb for all i care but we got TRICKED out a pick by trash QB

44. Great analysis and take. These casual fans who have never played football or QB will never understand how difficult it is to play with poor pass blocking and no run game . Mentally and physically it is such a difficult thing to do

45. If Geno and Sam are top 10 QB. They wouldn't be in the hands of the Seahawks without costly price. You get what you paid/traded.

46. You have one job as a backup QB and it's not to be good, it's to be ready. Howell was not ready to play, yes he's fully capable of playing ok football and being a backup, but last night he wasn't ready to play. I think what we learned last night is just a confirmation that John Schneider has neglected this offensive line and the QB position for far too long. We don't have the QB of the future (meaning after Geno) on this roster and I am not sure exactly how we are going to find it. We are going to have another 8-9 or 9-8, maybe 10 wins max season most likely and maybe miss the playoffs or be one and done. QB Purgatory, Geno will not last forever even if you think he's a really good QB.

47. Actually, fired up Brendan has a point

48. Can we say Howell is the worst all time Seahawks backup qb? That includes the Paperclip Jesus!

    We better square a replacement for Geno in the offseason. Dudes not getting any younger

49. Should’ve still had Drew lock.

50. Geno is genuinely that dude, this showed Seattle has to draft a QB. If 7 had a line he would light this game up. If they don’t have Geno, they don’t have a chance.