This situation keeps getting CRAZIER…
Nick Gosse breaks down how this situation just got crazier following some new reports have surrounded regarding the Toronto Blue Jays and Vladimir Guerrero Jr.
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Ross Atkins and Mark Shapiro are giving a master class on how not to manage a major professional sports franchise. Losing out on top free agents. Mismanaging the farm system. Misreading the fan base. The horrible renovations to the Skydome…those grey walls are absolutely hideous. Not signing your homegrown talent past their free agent years. Upsetting your superstars. Alienating the fan base. Every move they've made over the last 5 years has been a misstep.
I want vlad to go to real team with a chance to win. Isn't signing vlad here like the angels signing trout. He will never win here. The farm system and player development and on field product has been decimated by poor management. It will take a decade to repair but can only start that process by removing shitkins
Pay him 500 mill and bo 250-350. Sign a starter and 2 bars let’s go
Shapiro an Atkins is sports version of Trudeau. They destroy anything they put their hands on.
This isn't this managements first go around, I don't think they understand baseball !
Rogers trusted the Cleveland Indians losers to take over running the Jays..and they have run the team into the dust !!
They need to sign Vladdy NOW. They're p*ssing off their entire fanbase with this crap.
Anyone who thinks he's not worth it should compare his age 21-25 years to Barry Bonds.
It would be crazy if jays won’t give this young man the extension
Same news as last night
I will not watch this team if they let Vladdy go .
Sign the ducking man already . The amount of revenue he brings every year , everyone comes to watch jays because of Vladdy . He’s the heart and soul of this franchise and If they let him walk I will not watch them play and I’m sure most of the fans won’t either .
If they do nothing this year I hope the fans just don’t show up . Maybe then upper management will wake up when no one shows up and they lose millions of dollars
not worth it, get rid of the prima donna. This will make the Springer contract look good.
Can somebody please wake up Ross Atkins. Does he even realize free agency has started? Looks like another last place finish for the Jays.
Sign Vladdy, fire Shapiro & Atkins. Blue Jays problems solved.
Lost almost all faith in front office
Vladdy’s future with the jays took a real turn for the worse when he got picked off second in the playoffs.
All I have to say is the day they hired those two guys I knew this team was going down rogers should of just kept Alex anthonpoulus he operated with a smaller payroll and did a great job also better drafting record abd international signings I won’t go to a blue jays game till Roger’s hires better plp to run the baseball operations not these guys as they are proving you look back at the offseason they got rid of all that offense in gurriel jr teoscar hernanedz plus blue chip prospect Moreno for varsho Swanson seriously give me a break by tradeing those 2 guys they ruined the culture in the clubhouse with offense plus to make matters worse they also trade Moreno vlady if I where him I would just leave why waste your years with a team no direction a poor farm base not good prospects I am fed up with this team THE FANS DESERVE WAY BETTER than this garbage
All I have to say is the day they hired those two guys I knew this team was going down rogers should of just kept Alex anthonpoulus he operated with a smaller payroll and did a great job also better drafting record abd international signings I won’t go to a blue jays game till tigers hires better plp to run the baseball operations not these guys as they are proving
Jays are worse now with what the Yankees done so far and now the red sox just got another new starter and the jays have done nothing. All they done really is minor deals in the pen what’s that going to do they’re simply in a worse place now then before
Thats right Nick The Blue Jays Offered Ohtani 700 Million US $ and Juan Soto 760 Million US $ .When they basically had 0 chance of getting them . Because They did that now they have basically screwed themselves in trying to low ball Vlad at 340 Million. Like you said he is going to want close to 500 Million US $ . Luckily for Vlads sake the Blue Jays Organization is stupid when they should have signed Vlad after the 2022 season to a long multi year contract at 340 Million what they just recently offered him. Now they will have to pay Vlad a minimum of 100 Million U.S $ more now because of Ohtani and Juan Sotos contracts . Great for Vlad Terrible for The Rogers Organization and that is good.Screw you Ed Rogers
Soto definitely changed the market for Vladdy. The jays need to lock him up! He wants to stay! Fans want him to stay! Sign him 14 years 525 million.
Vladdy isnt a 500 million dollar player. Way too inconsistent. That said, he’s the heart of the franchise. They can’t let him go for nothing.
I am a Jays fan but I don't see this happening right now look it all the free agents that we could have sign and look it right now this front office is too scared to spend money there is no chance that we will sign with the Jays if they wanted him back they would have sign him by now he give them until spring training I don't see it happening and it really sucks
Vladdy has been an up and down player his whole career. Having a couple good seasons doesn't make you worth over 400 million. Jays are STUPID to throw that much money at him. Trade him and start the rebuild
I agree with the offers on Vlad.
Although I despise Jays management.
Vlad is too risky to invest big in.
Sign Teo for left field and next year pony up big for Kyle Tucker for right field.
Power hitting 1st baseman are a dime a dozen.
Jays need to invest in power outfield bats.
Just trade him to the Mets already
Great job with all the reporting! HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
I'll give Vlad credit for playing the PR game, but love how selective he is: he drops the Jays' offers in '21, and this year, but gives no insight into what he is asking for. Is it $720m (90% of Soto), or $640m (80% of Soto) or even $560, (70% of Soto)? Or is it less?
It would be nuts to pay any of these figures … so before saying "they have to sign the man", we need to know what he wants.
I also want to know what Vladdy wanted in '21. After one great season – albeit based in a AAA park – was he looking for more than Semien's $175/7 deal?
Why Edward? I don't understand. Are you and Atkins, something?? Why is Edward jeopardizing his business???
Told you that the Jays could have had Teo and Alonso, if not for Shatkins.
Don't care, but just be honest.
Is Atkins supposed to guess what Vlad wants? This could go alot faster if Vlad named the price.
It's possible that Atkins sees Vlad with all of his faults and blemishes and therefore doesn't see the value that others see. When Vlad came into the league he popped 48 HRs and was playing 3rd base. He was overweight with no agility and couldn't survive at 3rd. So he moved to 1st where overweight players go. Since then Vlad lost weight and HRs went to around 30 and wants to dabble 3rd base again. Vlad said last season that he isn't a HR hitter but a line drive hitter. It sounds like he is still trying to find himself. He doesn't know what he is about. I can see the ???? surrounding Vlad and why Atkins is reluctant to pay him.