If Graham isn’t staying there is 0 reason to keep AP around
December 28, 2024
If Graham isn’t staying there is 0 reason to keep AP around
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If AP stayed, it would be near impossible for him to get quality coaches
No way AP should be fired they wouldn’t let him pick his OC or others then they passed on Russell Wilson and Justin Fields to give AP gardner minshew
If they ran it back with Turner that would be very disappointing
So is Marvin Lewis not a capable DC?
AP is literally a rah rah guy. Unfortunately, like most sensible people told us last season, he was a motivational guy, now we reap the unfortunate results and try to move on.
It’s bleak around here boys! Mark shoudnt have hired AP last year. I’m not optimistic.
I think they can both go. Not because I dislike Graham, but I want a proper coaching search led by the GM and not the owner. And then that coach and fill out the staff his way. Not this ass backwards way everything has been done going.
Do you have link to the source?
Whenever they decide to clean house on AP, Graham will be a casualty. Hopefully it’s in the name of trading an above average guy for a really great guy but I’m not optimistic we get someone that transformational this coming off-season or next. Hopefully Graham finds a good DC job somewhere else. I can see Dallas nabbing him and telling him to make Micah Parsons the DPOY.
From Graham’s perspective – how would you feel if a person who was reporting to you became your boss while knowing he is less qualified than you?
This has been my biggest concern with AP. He lacks the experience and achievements to recruit and develop coaches. The coaches with high potential will go to teams and HCs they can learn from …or need to overpay them to persuade them to forgo opportunities to learn under a Reid, Harbaugh, Payton, etc.
A primary responsibility of a HC to recruit & hire, evaluate and develop coaches.
What does everyone think…if AP goes Max goes. I think the chances are high.
I wonder if there’s a chance Graham can get the HC job when AP gets fired … He’s had experience and knows what he’s doing as a coordinator.
I wouldn’t mind the hire – it keeps some sort of continuity at least.
AP needs to go period. He got his shot and he blew it, period. He hasn’t shown any growth as a coach or that he’s learned from his mistakes as the season has progressed. He’s still making the same mistakes over and over again.
If Graham leaves without a contract do we still get those sweet DEI Rooney picks?
And if true, this is why AP must go. A HC has to be able to assemble a decent staff. I don’t think AP can do that
I’m still willing to give ap one more season, but he’s had questionable decisions he’s made this year
I’ve been saying it for awhile. AP may well prove to be a good coach, perhaps even a great one, but a first year HC with a team as dysfunctional as ours with as many roster holes and underperforming segments as we have was never going to end well. Turning the Raiders around is going to require a HC with experience in doing that, someone with proven experience in building up a winning culture from scratch. Unfortunately none of those guys want to come here.
I worry that a win tomorrow against the Saints and next week against a resting Chargers will convince Mark to keep AP… hopefully I am wrong
AP is not bringing any top Offensive coordinator, considering the only rumor was that they gave AP a 2 year contract, they wouldn’t give the offensive coordinator a longer contract than the coach if they were to keep
Graham could go at anytime. He’s an average DC at best
Graham won’t stay, because he knows AP isn’t going to stay. The Raiders are going to get rid of AP, and Graham has seen both McDaniels and AP get fired after than two years on the job. lol. He knew, he knew that the place is a mess
AP has a 8% chance of staying. It’s hard to imagine he stays. His demeanor has changed significantly – Win or lose – you’d like the HC demeanor to remain steadfast but APs has been low energy or defensive through out the season. Not a fan of rebuilds EVERY YEAR but AP really ain’t it so be nice to just move forward now vs 3 seasons from now.
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This is why we shouldn’t draft a QB if ward or sanders isn’t there. There are incredible players we could draft and build around for years to come. Forcing a QB in this class is not good long term when we need a coaching staff more than anything
Blow the whole thing up. New everything, but give everyone 5 years. No more revolving door shit.
Find out what Graham wants and offer it to him.
I just wanted our high draft pick to stay. Carrs final eff you to the franchise is going to be to ensure the Saints lose tomorrow. My god we can’t have nice things
If mark had any sense. He would just fire AP. And just hire the coach from Detroit. Ben Johnson. Simple as that.
I’m okay on AP. Just okay.
But AP and Scott Turner aren’t taking this offense anywhere. Another 4-13 season would be likely.
I like PG, but I’m not of the mind that he’s irreplaceable.
29 comments
If AP stayed, it would be near impossible for him to get quality coaches
No way AP should be fired they wouldn’t let him pick his OC or others then they passed on Russell Wilson and Justin Fields to give AP gardner minshew
If they ran it back with Turner that would be very disappointing
So is Marvin Lewis not a capable DC?
AP is literally a rah rah guy. Unfortunately, like most sensible people told us last season, he was a motivational guy, now we reap the unfortunate results and try to move on.
It’s bleak around here boys! Mark shoudnt have hired AP last year. I’m not optimistic.
I think they can both go. Not because I dislike Graham, but I want a proper coaching search led by the GM and not the owner. And then that coach and fill out the staff his way. Not this ass backwards way everything has been done going.
Do you have link to the source?
Whenever they decide to clean house on AP, Graham will be a casualty. Hopefully it’s in the name of trading an above average guy for a really great guy but I’m not optimistic we get someone that transformational this coming off-season or next. Hopefully Graham finds a good DC job somewhere else. I can see Dallas nabbing him and telling him to make Micah Parsons the DPOY.
From Graham’s perspective – how would you feel if a person who was reporting to you became your boss while knowing he is less qualified than you?
This has been my biggest concern with AP. He lacks the experience and achievements to recruit and develop coaches. The coaches with high potential will go to teams and HCs they can learn from …or need to overpay them to persuade them to forgo opportunities to learn under a Reid, Harbaugh, Payton, etc.
A primary responsibility of a HC to recruit & hire, evaluate and develop coaches.
What does everyone think…if AP goes Max goes. I think the chances are high.
I wonder if there’s a chance Graham can get the HC job when AP gets fired … He’s had experience and knows what he’s doing as a coordinator.
I wouldn’t mind the hire – it keeps some sort of continuity at least.
AP needs to go period. He got his shot and he blew it, period. He hasn’t shown any growth as a coach or that he’s learned from his mistakes as the season has progressed. He’s still making the same mistakes over and over again.
If Graham leaves without a contract do we still get those sweet DEI Rooney picks?
And if true, this is why AP must go. A HC has to be able to assemble a decent staff. I don’t think AP can do that
I’m still willing to give ap one more season, but he’s had questionable decisions he’s made this year
I’ve been saying it for awhile. AP may well prove to be a good coach, perhaps even a great one, but a first year HC with a team as dysfunctional as ours with as many roster holes and underperforming segments as we have was never going to end well. Turning the Raiders around is going to require a HC with experience in doing that, someone with proven experience in building up a winning culture from scratch. Unfortunately none of those guys want to come here.
I worry that a win tomorrow against the Saints and next week against a resting Chargers will convince Mark to keep AP… hopefully I am wrong
AP is not bringing any top Offensive coordinator, considering the only rumor was that they gave AP a 2 year contract, they wouldn’t give the offensive coordinator a longer contract than the coach if they were to keep
Graham could go at anytime. He’s an average DC at best
Graham won’t stay, because he knows AP isn’t going to stay. The Raiders are going to get rid of AP, and Graham has seen both McDaniels and AP get fired after than two years on the job. lol. He knew, he knew that the place is a mess
AP has a 8% chance of staying. It’s hard to imagine he stays. His demeanor has changed significantly – Win or lose – you’d like the HC demeanor to remain steadfast but APs has been low energy or defensive through out the season. Not a fan of rebuilds EVERY YEAR but AP really ain’t it so be nice to just move forward now vs 3 seasons from now.
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This is why we shouldn’t draft a QB if ward or sanders isn’t there. There are incredible players we could draft and build around for years to come. Forcing a QB in this class is not good long term when we need a coaching staff more than anything
Blow the whole thing up. New everything, but give everyone 5 years. No more revolving door shit.
Find out what Graham wants and offer it to him.
I just wanted our high draft pick to stay. Carrs final eff you to the franchise is going to be to ensure the Saints lose tomorrow. My god we can’t have nice things
If mark had any sense. He would just fire AP. And just hire the coach from Detroit. Ben Johnson. Simple as that.
I’m okay on AP. Just okay.
But AP and Scott Turner aren’t taking this offense anywhere. Another 4-13 season would be likely.
I like PG, but I’m not of the mind that he’s irreplaceable.