I personally love this. Pivetta gives you a pitcher with great strikeout stuff and is a workhorse and has thrown 26 or more starts in 8 of his 8 seasons.

This also gives the opportunity to trade Lodolo or Abbott in a package for an outfielder.

Rotation would be:

Greene
Singer
Pivetta
Martinez
Abbott/Lodolo

Thoughts?

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  2. Lowder likely starts in AAA, but I imagine he’ll be up quickly if they’re still competing well into June.

  3. Just from looking at Pivetta’s numbers, I honestly don’t get why the Reds are interested. He’s basically a mid pitcher, which in the free agent market means they will pay a ton for him, plus give up a 2nd round draft pick. This has to be case where DJ thinks he sees something he can fix and turn him into something great, but I don’t see it.

    He’s basically less effective than Abbott as is, so why not spend less on Abbott, who at least has the benefit of being a lefty.

  4. Last year, he had 26 GS, 145.2 IP, 103 ERA+, 1.8 bWAR, 28.9% K, 6.1% BB.

    He also gave up 28 HR (more than any Red), had a .279 BABIP (indicating luck), and he’s exiting his prime.

    He’s, at best, a #4. As mentioned in the article, he declined the QO, so they’ll lose a draft pick if they sign him. To correct your post, he’s had 26 starts in 5 of his 8 seasons, although one of those seasons was the COVID year. (13 GS in ’19, 2 GS in ’20, 16 GS in ’23).

    He didn’t decline the QO because he thought he could get more than $21M AAV. He declined because he wants a longer contract/more security.

    I would pass. I’m not keen on the idea of giving a multi-year deal to a flyball pitcher with a HR issue that is exiting their prime. Especially if they’re theoretically pitching half of their games at GABP. Especially especially if it means losing a draft pick.

    I also don’t like signing him in order to facilitate a Lodolo/Abbott trade. It’d be selling low on Lodolo. And Abbott has just flat out been a better pitcher in his 2 years.

  5. Even picking him up I doubt they trade poodle or Abbott maybe if they can offload Ashcraft possibly the others they would move to the bullpen for a middle long man or spot starts in case of injury.

    Edit, I’m leaving it because it’s funny but poodle was auto corrected from Lodolo.

  7. No.

    Have we entered the do anything even if it’s wrong phase a management?

    Fans expect hot stove action; we’ll give em some.

    We lost our second most productive offensive player for an arm. Since a suitable offense replacement is not available for the price we wind up grasping for a fly ball pitcher who’s gonna get rocked at GAPB.

    No thanks….

  9. Everyone on the planet- Reds #1 need is a corner outfielder with pop

    Reds FO- but what if we had 8 starting pitchers instead

  11. Bold move. Maybe focus on snagging that power-hitting outfielder instead—lord knows we learned the hard way that a weak offense can sink even great pitching.

  12. I like this too IF, and only IF, they also go get a guy that can hit and play outfielde. This will definitely limit their options but imo they should put a trade package together with Lodolo at the top to get someone like Ward or better, Greinke. They HAVE to get a solid outfielder. It’s not maybe it’d be nice, they have to.

    I think this signing makes the rotation better and the guys waiting in the wings will not be random AAA guys who’s names are picked out of a hat when needed.

    So yes, it’s a good move. It can not be the only one though. If Krall ignores the outfield, again, this off-season was a failure and we’re set to have Will Benson platooning on opening day. Fairchild is out of options. The only good outfielder we have can’t stay healthy. It’s a mess and ignoring it for yet another year means we might as well tell the Cubs that they can just have the division.

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